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GribbleGrunger said:
New drawing from the leaker:

If this is true, which I feel pretty confedent it is, then it is quite disappointing. I expect more HDMI & USB ports on a premium console, and at least an SD card reader. I know these things are cheap additions for those that want them, but still it‘S premium, it should have all the balls and whistles. 

On top of that, it looks like we would still need the separate processing and HDMI pass though box for PSVR. That's hogwash if true. A premium console built with full knowledge of PSVR should have an HDMI and USB port on the front for quick VR gaming sessions, and easy clean up. 

If the above pick is real, then Sony dropped the ball hard. They have no ties to PC and Xperia is another Vaio that will drain them for years. They need to treat PlayStation with pride and give it the same or even a more premium feel than all of their other hardware. Hopefully, Wednesday brings something better or a removable pannel not visible here, because what is shown here looks like a down grade from the OG PS4, and that itself was a downgrade from  the OG PS3. 

Only 3 days to go.



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KBG29 said:

If this is true, which I feel pretty confedent it is, then it is quite disappointing. I expect more HDMI & USB ports on a premium console, and at least an SD card reader. I know these things are cheap additions for those that want them, but still it‘S premium, it should have all the balls and whistles. 

On top of that, it looks like we would still need the separate processing and HDMI pass though box for PSVR. That's hogwash if true. A premium console built with full knowledge of PSVR should have an HDMI and USB port on the front for quick VR gaming sessions, and easy clean up. 

If the above pick is real, then Sony dropped the ball hard. They have no ties to PC and Xperia is another Vaio that will drain them for years. They need to treat PlayStation with pride and give it the same or even a more premium feel than all of their other hardware. Hopefully, Wednesday brings something better or a removable pannel not visible here, because what is shown here looks like a down grade from the OG PS4, and that itself was a downgrade from  the OG PS3. 

Only 3 days to go.

If the Neo had it built in it would lead to consumer confusion. Sony want one product on the market when they can.



 

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KBG29 said:
GribbleGrunger said:
New drawing from the leaker:

If this is true, which I feel pretty confedent it is, then it is quite disappointing. I expect more HDMI & USB ports on a premium console, and at least an SD card reader. I know these things are cheap additions for those that want them, but still it‘S premium, it should have all the balls and whistles. 

On top of that, it looks like we would still need the separate processing and HDMI pass though box for PSVR. That's hogwash if true. A premium console built with full knowledge of PSVR should have an HDMI and USB port on the front for quick VR gaming sessions, and easy clean up. 

If the above pick is real, then Sony dropped the ball hard. They have no ties to PC and Xperia is another Vaio that will drain them for years. They need to treat PlayStation with pride and give it the same or even a more premium feel than all of their other hardware. Hopefully, Wednesday brings something better or a removable pannel not visible here, because what is shown here looks like a down grade from the OG PS4, and that itself was a downgrade from  the OG PS3. 

Only 3 days to go.

the premîum just means its more powerful. Not that it has more ports.



GribbleGrunger said:

On top of that, it looks like we would still need the separate processing and HDMI pass though box for PSVR.

If the Neo had it built in it would lead to consumer confusion. Sony want one product on the market when they can.

I can see that since the processor is bundled with every PSVR. 

Intrinsic said:

the premîum just means its more powerful. Not that it has more ports.

Doesn't seem premium at all if that's the case. Kaz has constantly talked about expanding PlayStation beyond games and building a bigger brand, but this shows no signs of that. However, looking at how they keep doing the same thing over and over with Vaio and Xperia perhaps Sony is just really stuck, and just got really lucky with PS4. 

At any rate, Wednesday can't come fast enough, then I‘ll know if It's a stud or a dud.



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KBG29 said:
GribbleGrunger said:

If the Neo had it built in it would lead to consumer confusion. Sony want one product on the market when they can.

I can see that since the processor is bundled with every PSVR. 

Intrinsic said:

the premîum just means its more powerful. Not that it has more ports.

Doesn't seem premium at all if that's the case. Kaz has constantly talked about expanding PlayStation beyond games and building a bigger brand, but this shows no signs of that. However, looking at how they keep doing the same thing over and over with Vaio and Xperia perhaps Sony is just really stuck, and just got really lucky with PS4. 

At any rate, Wednesday can't come fast enough, then I‘ll know if It's a stud or a dud.

Just got lucky?  I guess they just got lucky with the PS1, PS2, and with recovering from the mess that was the PS3 launch?  No, Sony knows what it is doing when it comes to games.  They are putting out the more appealing HW and a good price.  The only one they failed at was PS3, which is actually where they did aim too high, like some seem to want them to do, again.  Of course, since the PS brand is so known and enjoyed WW, the PS3 was able to recover from a poor launch and 1st year on market.  And how did they do it?  By simplifying things and cutting costs to reasonable levels.  People seem to be confused at what the Slim and Neo are all about. 

The Slim was to cut costs to a minimum, so they could drop the price of the PS4, most likely to $249.  So, it didn't add things like the XBOS did, but it didn't need to, as the PS4 was selling fine without those things, and the Slim will fly off shelves with a cheaper price.  And if MS tries to match a $249 PS4, they are going to start taking on losses, thanks to the features they added.  This may force them to stick with $299.

The Neo is a boost in performance, not a premium console that includes every feature under the sun.  Again, this is to give a substantial boost to those who want it.  The most I expect to be new on it is a 4K Bluray player and a 4K upscaler, since it will be focusing on 4K.  Other than that, it'll be just like the OG PS4, but with a better GPU.  This will most likely launch at $399, because it isn't adding a bunch of new HW features, the same price as the PS4 OG launched at.  Now MS, just like with the Slim, may choose to add a bunch of features to the Scorpio, mostly because they have to to compete, but they are probably going to also have to launch for $449-$499.  A $449-$499 Scorpio against a $349 Neo (Sony will most likely drop the price around the Scorpio's launch), will get destroyed.

Edit: Also, if you see no signs of them expanding the brand, then what do you call PS Music (powered by Spotify) and more importantly PS Vue?



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thismeintiel said:

Just got lucky?  I guess they just got lucky with the PS1, PS2, and with recovering from the mess that was the PS3 launch?  No, Sony knows what it is doing when it comes to games.  They are putting out the more appealing HW and a good price.  The only one they failed at was PS3, which is actually where they did aim too high, like some seem to want them to do, again.  Of course, since the PS brand is so known and enjoyed WW, the PS3 was able to recover from a poor launch and 1st year on market.  And how did they do it?  By simplifying things and cutting costs to reasonable levels.  People seem to be confused at what the Slim and Neo are all about. 

The Slim was to cut costs to a minimum, so they could drop the price of the PS4, most likely to $249.  So, it didn't add things like the XBOS did, but it didn't need to, as the PS4 was selling fine without those things, and the Slim will fly off shelves with a cheaper price.  And if MS tries to match a $249 PS4, they are going to start taking on losses, thanks to the features they added.  This may force them to stick with $299.

The Neo is a boost in performance, not a premium console that includes every feature under the sun.  Again, this is to give a substantial boost to those who want it.  The most I expect to be new on it is a 4K Bluray player and a 4K upscaler, since it will be focusing on 4K.  Other than that, it'll be just like the OG PS4, but with a better GPU.  This will most likely launch at $399, because it isn't adding a bunch of new HW features, the same price as the PS4 OG launched at.  Now MS, just like with the Slim, may choose to add a bunch of features to the Scorpio, mostly because they have to to compete, but they are probably going to also have to launch for $449-$499.  A $449-$499 Scorpio against a $349 Neo (Sony will most likely drop the price around the Scorpio's launch), will get destroyed.

Edit: Also, if you see no signs of them expanding the brand, then what do you call PS Music (powered by Spotify) and more importantly PS Vue?

And Sony know this. Chess is a fascinating game. Now watch Sony change the 'the worlds most powerful console' to 'It's all about the games' as we draw closer to the Scorpios release, with promotions for all the games they showed this E3 (the lit fuse for this new narrative).

https://youtu.be/GwofRzkROo4?t=1h37m

Watch his almost dismissive expression of tech followed by his enthusiasm for 'the brilliance of gameplay'.



 

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thismeintiel said:
KBG29 said:

I can see that since the processor is bundled with every PSVR. 

Doesn't seem premium at all if that's the case. Kaz has constantly talked about expanding PlayStation beyond games and building a bigger brand, but this shows no signs of that. However, looking at how they keep doing the same thing over and over with Vaio and Xperia perhaps Sony is just really stuck, and just got really lucky with PS4. 

At any rate, Wednesday can't come fast enough, then I‘ll know if It's a stud or a dud.

Just got lucky?  I guess they just got lucky with the PS1, PS2, and with recovering from the mess that was the PS3 launch?  No, Sony knows what it is doing when it comes to games.  They are putting out the more appealing HW and a good price.  The only one they failed at was PS3, which is actually where they did aim too high, like some seem to want them to do, again.  Of course, since the PS brand is so known and enjoyed WW, the PS3 was able to recover from a poor launch and 1st year on market.  And how did they do it?  By simplifying things and cutting costs to reasonable levels.  People seem to be confused at what the Slim and Neo are all about. 

The Slim was to cut costs to a minimum, so they could drop the price of the PS4, most likely to $249.  So, it didn't add things like the XBOS did, but it didn't need to, as the PS4 was selling fine without those things, and the Slim will fly off shelves with a cheaper price.  And if MS tries to match a $249 PS4, they are going to start taking on losses, thanks to the features they added.  This may force them to stick with $299.

The Neo is a boost in performance, not a premium console that includes every feature under the sun.  Again, this is to give a substantial boost to those who want it.  The most I expect to be new on it is a 4K Bluray player and a 4K upscaler, since it will be focusing on 4K.  Other than that, it'll be just like the OG PS4, but with a better GPU.  This will most likely launch at $399, because it isn't adding a bunch of new HW features, the same price as the PS4 OG launched at.  Now MS, just like with the Slim, may choose to add a bunch of features to the Scorpio, mostly because they have to to compete, but they are probably going to also have to launch for $449-$499.  A $449-$499 Scorpio against a $349 Neo (Sony will most likely drop the price around the Scorpio's launch), will get destroyed.

Edit: Also, if you see no signs of them expanding the brand, then what do you call PS Music (powered by Spotify) and more importantly PS Vue?

Think Scorpio might be a bit more considering they might go with a Zen & Vega combo. Panello already said the chip alone will cost more than a PS3 at launch, which was $499. The Scorpio will be a beast of a console at a premium price and i won't be surprised if MS take a huge hit on each sale. 

 

Sony is still going with an old CPU and GPU most likely with a Jaguar and Polaris combo.



KBG29 said:
GribbleGrunger said:

If the Neo had it built in it would lead to consumer confusion. Sony want one product on the market when they can.

I can see that since the processor is bundled with every PSVR. 

Intrinsic said:

the premîum just means its more powerful. Not that it has more ports.

Doesn't seem premium at all if that's the case. Kaz has constantly talked about expanding PlayStation beyond games and building a bigger brand, but this shows no signs of that. However, looking at how they keep doing the same thing over and over with Vaio and Xperia perhaps Sony is just really stuck, and just got really lucky with PS4. 

At any rate, Wednesday can't come fast enough, then I‘ll know if It's a stud or a dud.

err.. psvue??



Intrinsic said:

err.. psvue??

Yeah, it's strange how people even know the quotes but still don't quite understand what it's related to. It blows my mind sometimes.



 

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Intrinsic said:
KBG29 said:

I can see that since the processor is bundled with every PSVR. 

Doesn't seem premium at all if that's the case. Kaz has constantly talked about expanding PlayStation beyond games and building a bigger brand, but this shows no signs of that. However, looking at how they keep doing the same thing over and over with Vaio and Xperia perhaps Sony is just really stuck, and just got really lucky with PS4. 

At any rate, Wednesday can't come fast enough, then I‘ll know if It's a stud or a dud.

err.. psvue??

 

GribbleGrunger said:
Intrinsic said:

err.. psvue??

Yeah, it's strange how people even know the quotes but still don't quite understand what it's related to. It blows my mind sometimes.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/network/video/

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/network/music/

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/playstation-plus/powers/

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/12/23/non-gaming-applications-will-important-playstation-vr-says-shuhei-yoshida/

Yeah...I don't get why Sony hasn't done anything to expand Playstation past gaming.



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