JWeinCom said:
zorg1000 said:
I think you and many others are thinking about this device in the wrong way.
The primary purpose is to allow for a single device to get the combined the support of Nintendo's handhelds & consoles.
This device will likely get strong 3rd party support, just that it will primarily consist of Japanese, indie & family friendly games.
Anybody who honestly thought Nintendo was going to actively push for a device so that it could get things like Grand Theft Auto, Elder Scrolls, etc. had unrealistic expectations.
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No, I'm thinking it in exactly the right way. A system that will have Nintendo games and not much else.
I'm not sure why you'd expect the system to have strong third party support. Japanese support for the Wii U is nonexistant, and I'd hesitate to say the 3DS has strong third party support. The biggest supporters have been Capcom and Squeenix, but even that has involved heavy promotion from Nintendo, which went as far as publishing certain games (Bravely 1/2 and Monster Hunters) in certain regions. The third party support isn't bad, but it's not great either.
As for Nintendo pushing for a device that could get third party support, I don't think that's unreasonable at all. The XBox One and PS4 weren't even cutting edge when they came out three years ago. By now, it should be trivially easy to match them.
This kind of reminds me of the XBox One launch with its focus on multimedia. Those features made a lot of sense for Microsoft to be excited about, but they weren't what gamers wanted or needed. Same here. It definitely makes sense for Nintendo to want to have a unified system, but the benefits for gamers aren't quite there.
A simple question. Outside of the existing base of 3DS and Wii U owners (probably around 60-65 million) who exactly is this going to appeal to? How is this going to bring in new players? As a fan of Nintendo games, I'll buy the product, and I'll probably love it. As a fan of Nintendo as a company, who wants them to stay in the dedicated hardware industry, I hate it. Of course, that's all assuming the rumors are true.
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Like I said, the support will likely come from a combination of Japanese, indie & family friendly titles which are all 3 categories that Nintendo gets solid support from. Basic western support similar to what Wii U had initially would certainly be welcome and would give NX a pretty well rounded library.
Its not that Nintendo cant release a powerful device with the intention of getting PS4/XB1 ports, its that they wont and shouldnt. Why would people buy a device released in the middle of the generation to play games that are on devices they already own? They wont and it will then be Nintendo games that are the only major differentiator.......so basically Wii U, a device late to the party designed to get ports with a few big exclusives each year.
There are certainly many benefits for gamers by going with a unified system. One of which is being able to play all your games on a single device instead of having to buy 2 seperate devices to get full access to the Nintendo ecosystem.
For example, lets say someone is interested in Fire Emblem, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Monster Hunter, Splatoon, Mario Maker, Bayonetta & Xenoblade X. That person would need to spend $500 in hardware to play those 8 games and would have to own 2 seperate devices and they couldnt play half those games on the go or the other half on the TV. They may pass on getting either device, but if they had the option to buy a single $250 device that played all 8 of those games on the TV or on the go, wouldnt they be more likely to go with that option? I certainly think so.
Another reason is that Nintendo can cut down on redundant titles which opens them up to resurrecting older franchises and making new IP, giving them the potential to diversify their library and a more diverse library means the potential to get new players.