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Fei-Hung said:
Isn't the answer logical?

- it's much cheaper to own a second system for your bedroom etc

- It's probably going to be the cheapest current gen console and still more powerful than its rival.

- it offers console VR set up at the cheapest possible price.

- The Neo is for a premium experience and those who might have a 4K TV or who wish to upgrade.

The vanilla PS4 will probably be slowly phased out leaving just the two systems.


The X1S and PS4S are trying to do different things. They have different goals. Sony has gone the traditional root of bringing the price down for the consumer and offering a smaller system. MS has gone with smaller system but a higher price due to 4K.

I see MS having more issues with this as primarily people buy consoles for gaming and the entry point will be far cheaper with a PS4 vanilla or PS4S. Hell it might even be possible for the Neo to priced the same or very similar to the X1S!

@bolded

Almost everything you just said is bullshit. 



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zero129 said:

I remember back when the XB1S was shown how a bunch of people here where claiming that its pointless since Scorpio will be releasing in 2017 (I think we even had a thread on it here??, im still looking for it so if anyone else has it please do post a link )

So now i ask do them same people still feel the same about the PS4S??.

Now clearly i myself know they both have a use. But id like to hear from the same people who where saying the was no point before how they now feel.

I think the people claiming it was pointless were people that are certainly in the Scorpio Demographic, I didn't really see many people say it was pointless,

I do remember seeing many people however say it was silly to announce Scorpio after announcing the Slim, and the reason for this is that the XB1S is actaully a pretty decent upgrade from the XBO, so if people didn't know scorpio was coming they may have wanted to upgrade to that system.

The PS4 "slim" is not an upgrade over the original, it is a budget version of the console designed to be launched and sold at a low price alongside Neo, Unlike the XB1s I don't really see many people being enticed to upgrade from their original ps4 to this, it's target demographic is new customers AND people who aren't interested in Neo.

So yeah... the XB1s isn't pointless, the new ps4 isn't pointless. The only difference between the two is that the XB1s actually appeals to people who already own the OG XB1 and as such maybe annoucning Scorpio at the same time wasn't a good idea, business wise.



smroadkill15 said:
Fei-Hung said:
Isn't the answer logical?

- it's much cheaper to own a second system for your bedroom etc

- It's probably going to be the cheapest current gen console and still more powerful than its rival.

- it offers console VR set up at the cheapest possible price.

- The Neo is for a premium experience and those who might have a 4K TV or who wish to upgrade.

The vanilla PS4 will probably be slowly phased out leaving just the two systems.


The X1S and PS4S are trying to do different things. They have different goals. Sony has gone the traditional root of bringing the price down for the consumer and offering a smaller system. MS has gone with smaller system but a higher price due to 4K.

I see MS having more issues with this as primarily people buy consoles for gaming and the entry point will be far cheaper with a PS4 vanilla or PS4S. Hell it might even be possible for the Neo to priced the same or very similar to the X1S!

@bolded

Almost everything you just said is bullshit. 

Other then the last sentence I don't see anything that controversial...

The first paragraph is spot on.



playstation always have a slim i thought PS1,PS2,PS3 and now PS4 which will most likely sell millions,tradition i guess,they have always had a slim

interestingly 3 of those consoles won the generation which must help slim sales



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zero129 said:

I remember back when the XB1S was shown how a bunch of people here where claiming that its pointless since Scorpio will be releasing in 2017 (I think we even had a thread on it here??, im still looking for it so if anyone else has it please do post a link )

So now i ask do them same people still feel the same about the PS4S??.

Now clearly i myself know they both have a use. But id like to hear from the same people who where saying the was no point before how they now feel.

What's the point of having any of them when the NX is on the Horizon sporting that sweet looking Zelda!!!

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zero129 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

To replace the original Ps4 and be the cheaper option for the consumers who don't want to buy the more expensive Neo. I do agree that its weird that people said the x1 slim is useless since both the ps4 slim and x1s serve the same purpose for the respective platforms

True this.

1080P useless. But now its ok.

4K useless. But now its ok.

XB1Scorpio Ruining gaming and useless but PS4Neo is ok.

XB1S Useless but PS4S is now cool.

thats just some of the things i have seen on the forums here, and i do find it both strange and funny how fans can be so quick to contemn one thing and then switch their stance when it suits them like nothing has happened.

Names? Because the way I see this, it's a typical way of putting all comments made by members of a certain group, and call out the entire group for it, instead of the few ones that made such comments. In particular, some of them might feel it's "pointless" for XBO, but never even commented about the PS equivalent. But since you saw the comment made by "members of the PS group", you say it was said by that group instead of that certain indivual. 

So again, give us specific names. Thanks.



I can't remember anybody making that claim. You could be right but I've seen some wild claims made by you in other threads.
So, like any claim please source and give us some quotes.
I've seen people say it's a silly move to announce the Scorpio early and justified their opinion, but if people have said what you claim then they are flat out wrong.



That's a good question.

 

@bluedawgs yes it is a good question or else some would of not question the Xbox One S.



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A PS4 Slim is a bit pointless, and The PS4 is already slim.

Xbox One Slim isn't pointless, it's a big improvement. The Scorpio however is kind of pointless.

"Play your Xbox games in 4K!" Urr we can already do that on a PC that costs as much as your Scorpio and we don't have to wait till holiday 2017 to do it.



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It should be cheaper due to lower manufacturing and shipping costs, simple as that.

zero129 said:

I remember back when the XB1S was shown how a bunch of people here where claiming that its pointless since Scorpio will be releasing in 2017

Yeah, I don't remember this at all. The only argument about the XB1 Slim vs. Scorpio I remember is that Slim sales will get hurt to a certain extend due to Microsoft already announcing the Scorpio this early, meaning some people will wait for the Scorpio instead of getting the Slim right now, which is a good argument. I don't remember anyone claiming that the XB1 Slim is pointless.