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SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:

Man, I'm not talking about it as a law. I'm talking as in USA it being accept that as long as you have a drop of a blood from some ethinicity you could identify yourself as of that race.

IF a law is written in list format (white, black, yellow, and forget red or any other skin color someone wants to say he is) then it's right to ask for the change of the law to remove the list and have all citizen (in Brazil the constitution is for all people, and even so the minority groups fight for special threatment as a mean to solve perceived inequalities).

And some of the discussions I have seem on BLM and feminism were asking for white man to pay for the issues of the past that they didn't cause to people that didn't suffered.

The One Drop Rule is definitely not a factor here, law or otehrwise.  Nobody goes by that and you only even hear about it now in history books.  I personally haven't heard it in years until you mentioned it.

Sadly, that's our situation here.  We make protection laws that enumerate groups or circumstance (race, sex, age, religion, etc...) rather than just say "everybody".  And it's done a poor job of ensuring protection.  Further is the problem is that even if a law is in place, you can't make people feel differently.  It may be legally wrong for X to discriminate against Y but a lot of X's still say, do and act in negative ways toward Y's.

As for the last point, reparations and stuff like that...again, those are a very minor portion of minority groups making such demands.  They don't represent the group as a whole.  Keep in mind that BLM is not a single entity.  There is no leader, no organization behind it, no spokesperson, etc...it's simply a movement and anyone can say they are part of it and demand whatever.  There is an organization called Movement for Black Lives that is riding the waves of the BLM movement and they are demanding reparations.  In fact, there has always been a small group demanding reparations but they represent black people in the same way the KKK represents white people.....they don't.

Guess you haven't followed this NCAAP case them. But since the one drop rule is basically rubbish and in Brazil it's obnoxious since almost everyone have heritage from most of ethinical groups I won't fault you for that.

I understand your point on ridiculous law, but just to remember, laws are basically useless. Natural law when written is followed because it already was followed before, forced laws aren't followed because a piece of paper don't change people behaviour. Much like you can't make a law prohibiting people to be poor.

And on the reparations... I know it's a minor portion, but they are the most vocal, the ones that get more of the spotlight, the ones that twist things and get media support... and guess what, there have a lot of them heading those organizations for personnal gain. And that is why I ignore the minority movements, because they are a shelter for those guys, and you rarely will see anyone that identifies oneself in that minority being vocal against those vocal minorities while still part of the movement, they just play dumb.

ArchangelMadzz said:
DonFerrari said:

You wish they aren't... you can watch almost any parade and movement discourse and they will talk about historic debt and special threatment they want to equalize.

The greeks didn't celebrate homosexuality, they were on the marriage with woman and seldomly have sex with man.

The reason why today people have these parades is because the bigger issues doesn't exist anymore as they existed in the greek time.

If you legitimately believe people have pride parades because bigger issues don't exist anymore then there isn't a discussion to be had. You'll never quite understand.

Do you have a gay parade in Saudi Arabia? A Black Lives Matter on Somalia? Or a feminist protest in Syria?

No. The only place SJW have space to protest about what they think is wrong is places that are a lot better to live than the places those problems they say exist really do exist.



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Moonlighter said:
FragilE^ said:

Being able to dismiss these absolutely ridiculous claims properly is good, and can be very useful. But I really think that most of these are so dumb that its pointless to even put in the effort. Good on yah if you do it though.
So many of them boil down to paranoia as well, they come from a scary place.
Every single one of them can also be applied in reverse, because as with all this bullshit about "white privilege", its not about being white, its "majority privilege" and even that is dumb. There are no guarantees. Is anyone talking about "yellow privilege" in China? They are superracist lol (most of my friends are chinese). Most of those things can apply directly to me, being white, hanging out with my chinese friends (despite living in Sweden, a mostly white country).

Lol. You're right. I'd do it though because if a part of my career does involve talking to audiences about this, I unfortunately can't give just the short "you're argument is ridiculous" answer. Evolutionary biologist, Doctor Richard Dawkins is known to debate a lot of closed minded religious people and while many say he shouldn't waste his time, I think he's trying to test his patience/tolerance in the process. 6+ years back, I wasn't as tolerant nor patient as I am now with hearing different views and despite how weird it may sound, debating with people that I disagree with has helped me pay more attention to detail. At the end of the day, I think it would be worth going further into because the idea of white prvilege and even white guilt is pretty known. Getting people to see and understand why the ideas of it are flawed would help erase the nonsense. Well, nonsensical ideas will always exist, but we need to hear them once in a while to facepalm and get the blood moving.  

Absolutely, GamerGate, radical feminists and SJWs really taught me the value of proper arguments. Backing up the things you're saying is extremely important if you want to change something or someone. Those arguments however rarely reach those that need to hear it, and that paper is clearly biased.

Remember the wage gap? The "1 in 4" stat? Haha, as if those things ever went away. Ugh, I just wanna puke. Still, I learned a lot from those idiotic statements and I now know exactly why they're bullshit. If I didn't have that knowledge, I wouldn't be able to argue against it and then I'd be forced to accept them. Always be critical, and think about everything!!



DonFerrari said:
SpokenTruth said:

The One Drop Rule is definitely not a factor here, law or otehrwise.  Nobody goes by that and you only even hear about it now in history books.  I personally haven't heard it in years until you mentioned it.

Sadly, that's our situation here.  We make protection laws that enumerate groups or circumstance (race, sex, age, religion, etc...) rather than just say "everybody".  And it's done a poor job of ensuring protection.  Further is the problem is that even if a law is in place, you can't make people feel differently.  It may be legally wrong for X to discriminate against Y but a lot of X's still say, do and act in negative ways toward Y's.

As for the last point, reparations and stuff like that...again, those are a very minor portion of minority groups making such demands.  They don't represent the group as a whole.  Keep in mind that BLM is not a single entity.  There is no leader, no organization behind it, no spokesperson, etc...it's simply a movement and anyone can say they are part of it and demand whatever.  There is an organization called Movement for Black Lives that is riding the waves of the BLM movement and they are demanding reparations.  In fact, there has always been a small group demanding reparations but they represent black people in the same way the KKK represents white people.....they don't.

Guess you haven't followed this NCAAP case them. But since the one drop rule is basically rubbish and in Brazil it's obnoxious since almost everyone have heritage from most of ethinical groups I won't fault you for that.

I understand your point on ridiculous law, but just to remember, laws are basically useless. Natural law when written is followed because it already was followed before, forced laws aren't followed because a piece of paper don't change people behaviour. Much like you can't make a law prohibiting people to be poor.

And on the reparations... I know it's a minor portion, but they are the most vocal, the ones that get more of the spotlight, the ones that twist things and get media support... and guess what, there have a lot of them heading those organizations for personnal gain. And that is why I ignore the minority movements, because they are a shelter for those guys, and you rarely will see anyone that identifies oneself in that minority being vocal against those vocal minorities while still part of the movement, they just play dumb.

ArchangelMadzz said:

If you legitimately believe people have pride parades because bigger issues don't exist anymore then there isn't a discussion to be had. You'll never quite understand.

Do you have a gay parade in Saudi Arabia? A Black Lives Matter on Somalia? Or a feminist protest in Syria?

No. The only place SJW have space to protest about what they think is wrong is places that are a lot better to live than the places those problems they say exist really do exist.

Jesus H Christ.

You don't have it there because they would be killed. You know that. Just because you don't have the threat of death doesn't mean you're not being discriminated..

 

Who even mentioned SJW's? I feel like you're having an argument no one is having due to things you've seen online.



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hatmoza said:

Acknowledge that there is a thing called "white privilege" and that it is effecting the lives of non-white people everyday. Then they can be as proud as they want. Some are unconscious of white privilege... and then there are those who completely reject its existence.

I love this paper on the list of 50 things white people can do that other races cannot.
http://www.cirtl.net/files/PartI_CreatingAwareness_WhitePrivilegeUnpackingtheInvisibleKnapsack.pdf

So white priviledge is actually priviledge of the majority.



hatmoza said:

Acknowledge that there is a thing called "white privilege" and that it is effecting the lives of non-white people everyday. Then they can be as proud as they want. Some are unconscious of white privilege... and then there are those who completely reject its existence.

I love this paper on the list of 50 things white people can do that other races cannot.
http://www.cirtl.net/files/PartI_CreatingAwareness_WhitePrivilegeUnpackingtheInvisibleKnapsack.pdf

That article is disgusting. And the brainwash campaign that is going on right now in the West is disgusting, because she and her likes are in power in many Western countries now. They dominate politics, the cultural field and our academia.

Everything on that list goes out the window if she would go to a different society where white people aren't the majority, like Africa or Asia. But would she preach about Arab privilege or Black privilege there? No she wouldn't, because she is a hypocrite and a self-hater.

White people are supposed to be aware of their "privilege", but Arabs in the Middle East, black people in Africa or Asians in Asia don't have to be aware of theirs?

That's totally unfair. It's discrimination. It's a racist idea. It's extreme hypocrisy.

And these disgusting socialists and feminists have stomach to spread in the West and brainwash society and spread this anti-white racist message.

I hate unthankful, hypcrite race-traitors like her from the bottom of my heart. It's a parasite of humanity, the lowest of the low.



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I don't feel proud about being white, but I reject this notion of white privilege as long as you don't acknowledge black privilege, Arab privilege and Asian privilege and if you don't acknowledge the reasons to why white people in general have somewhat easier lives in the West than minorities do (the main reason being that whites, as a group, actually have earned their "privilege").

The problem in the west is not racism or white pride anymore. The problem is increasingly white guilt and self-hate and it will keep increasing until the white race is eradicated. Such is the power of socialism in our society.



Why should i feel anything about my skin colour? I guess i should be ashamed as i am quite pale from all the time spent on gaming away from the sun.
The concept of 'pride in one's race' is rather stupid. In my opinion if you are to have pride in anything beyond your own family it would be in humanity as a whole and/or your nation.



I think white people should be in the forefront of not thinking about race at all. The world will be better off when we stop dividing people according to race. And since most (but not all) racial oppression has been carried out at the hands of white people then it's white people who need to take a lead trying to create a post-racial world.

I am neither proud of my race nor am I ashamed. No one has achieved anything BECAUSE they were white, so of what is there to be proud of whiteness? It's not whiteness that enables great discoveries and achievements in the arts and sciences. To claim it is whiteness that contributes to this is, by definition, racist, because it suggests that by mere skin tone you have a superior capacity to achieve great things. To say that whiteness is not a basis for these achievements means there is logical justification for pride in one's skin tone. Similarly whiteness is not a cause of racism or tyranny or oppression or slavery, so one's skin tone is not a reason for historical guilt.



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If you're white and don't feel guilt, then you're clearly a racist.

Its quite simple.



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Honestly caring about race is kinda stupid XD we are humans I don't give a crap what race you are everyone has done bad stuff to each other and being one race doesn't make you this way or make you a bad person you decide for yourself you still have your own choices you can't blame all your problems on other people :P