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Eagle367 on 22 August 2016
VGPolyglot said:
The Bible, to my knowledge, is very one-sided. We only see it from the point of view of God. How do we know that he is not deceiving us and lying to us? God seems to be very authoritarian, and seems to want complete control. Maybe Satan is just a really nice guy who's been misunderstood.

Anyways, if Neymar wants to wear the bandana, go ahead.

God created everything and the concept of good and evil so if we disobey him then we're screwed. Satan disobeyed him and will go to hell at the end as well as people who listened to Satan. So technically if we don't want eternal torment we have to obey him. When we die we'll find out whether the atheists or Hindus or Muslims or Christians or Jews were right but until then we can only believe what we believe and live and let live. If you were wrong you're screwed and if you were right perhaps heaven is waiting for you



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WagnerPaiva on 22 August 2016
Rogerioandrade said:
Brazil is a country with a majoritarian christian population, so expressions like that are pretty common here.

Like it or not, religion is still part of the Brazilian culture in many ways, even our main holidays are basically religious holidays, like October, 12th (Our Lady Patroness´day), Carnaval/Ash Wednesday, Christmas etc.

Religous figures are present in many popular folk parties here, like June Parties (similar to Solstice Festivals in Europe/NA), Processions Festivals etc. etc.

It´s just lame and dumb to criticize a simple expression like Neymar´s bandanna. If that´s the case, then they should have banned images of the Statue of Christ the Redemeer in OG merchandising items and Tv streamings

I never liked the guy, but I think he was very brave in wearing that bandana. I am aware he has done it also in the Champions League final in Europe and also got into trouble there, so this is a beautiful thing in my eyes: I personaly think it is a honor to suffer for Jesus Christ and that it is a shame to deny Him in any situation.

So I applaud Neymar Jr for that, he had nothing to win and a lot to lose, but he did it anyways.



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VGPolyglot on 22 August 2016
Eagle367 said:
VGPolyglot said:
The Bible, to my knowledge, is very one-sided. We only see it from the point of view of God. How do we know that he is not deceiving us and lying to us? God seems to be very authoritarian, and seems to want complete control. Maybe Satan is just a really nice guy who's been misunderstood.

Anyways, if Neymar wants to wear the bandana, go ahead.

God created everything and the concept of good and evil so if we disobey him then we're screwed. Satan disobeyed him and will go to hell at the end as well as people who listened to Satan. So technically if we don't want eternal torment we have to obey him. When we die we'll find out whether the atheists or Hindus or Muslims or Christians or Jews were right but until then we can only believe what we believe and live and let live. If you were wrong you're screwed and if you were right perhaps heaven is waiting for you

All authority should be questioned. If God is that jealous that he sends people to eternal punishment for not obeying him then I would rather be in Hell where the much more accepting Satan lives.



Dr.Vita on 22 August 2016

As a Christian I would say that this is a great gesture from Neymar. Why should someone criticize this?




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nanarchy on 22 August 2016
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Peh said:

The amount of religious people in a country doesn't determine what kind of country it is. Ever heard of secularism?

I was referring to countries whose large majority are Christians in religion, even if tou take the 20 happiest countries of the world, 19/20 are Christian countries (ie. about 70% of the population are Christians in religion)

Happiest countries in the world - Business Insider
Happiest Countries in the World

many of those happiest countries would equate closer to non-religious than christian. Australia for instance. seems this is being blown way out of proportion, Olympics have specific rules around religions, political statements, commercial statements etc. It is supposedly to be purely about sport and good will and any of those topics promotes the opposite of that, imagine someone standing up and sprouting their faith in ISIS and what they stand for. keep religion, politics and commercialism out of it, it lessens the event (many of the atheletes are already doing enough damage without introducing additional controversary)



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dark_gh0st_b0y on 22 August 2016
S.Peelman said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

China is not even in the top20 Happiest countries, and yeah, I mean % population, so nothing to do with China really

I believe that religion is connected on how people live and how they view things, as well as each other, so of course it is connected to happiness

also, Brazil is 17th and it's poor, and the very rich Qatar, Oman, Emirates, Saudi Arabia are close (and better in economy than Europe-US btw) but not as happy

I didn't really want to respond in this thread but there you have it.

I don't want to burst your bubble, but most people here in the Netherlands and in those Northern European countries don't give jack shit about religion. We are on that list because we are some of the most prosperous countries in the world. Even the people that are statistically considered "poor", would have it pretty decent in most other places. Unlike those Arab countries, distribution of wealth is much more balanced, meaning more happy people instead of just a happy few.

Religion has absolutely no impact on the majority of people's daily lives as people do what they want with whom they want, it by law serves no role in government, it has had no impact on how we built our economy. And this is not something that's new, this sort of influence has been steadily declining for centuries now. Churches have been and are still being closed left and right, to either be demolished or repurposed into libraries, art-galleries or apartment buildings. No, and I won't debate this, but you are very wrong, christianity or religion in general is not connected to happiness here.

I already know that as the years go by less and less people in Western Europe care about religion, and Netherlands is the country people care the least

still, US and Western Europe's culture and way of living have been set many years ago based on Christian ideals (people used to care back then), and the way we live today is a result of that, regardless if people are shifting to atheist

a long discussion really that cannot be done on a forum



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

Zkuq on 22 August 2016
KLAMarine said:
Zkuq said:

I've talked to a person who says that in the eyes of God, sin is sin no matter what kind it is. As long as it's against His will, it's sin and that's all there is to it. Sadly, it also seems like the logical conclusion according to my knowledge of Christianity and the Bible. It does make sense if you look at it from a certain angle (a crime is a crime).

Disclaimer: I don't know what to believe in. Science still leaves enough room for God to exist, but there's also no scientific evidence supporting God. I'm happy enough with recognizing the situation and not making up my mind because it doesn't really matter right now. I'd rather give God the benefit of doubt than outright deny His existence.

I get the logic but I do scratch my head at the notion that homosexuality is a sin. It doesn't hurt anyone like murder or theft.

Yeah, doesn't fit my idea of good and evil either. Homosexuality doesn't harm anyone in any manner. On the contrary, it can bring people lots of joy (just like heterosexuality). I think you already got your answer from binary solo as to why homosexuality is a sin (which, apparently, is sort of a simplified statement).



binary solo on 22 August 2016
Zkuq said:
KLAMarine said:

I get the logic but I do scratch my head at the notion that homosexuality is a sin. It doesn't hurt anyone like murder or theft.

Yeah, doesn't fit my idea of good and evil either. Homosexuality doesn't harm anyone in any manner. On the contrary, it can bring people lots of joy (just like heterosexuality). I think you already got your answer from binary solo as to why homosexuality is a sin (which, apparently, is sort of a simplified statement).

Putting aside the question of harm, or not, from homosexual relations, religion is as concerned about harm to self as it is about harm to others. A lot of religious teachings are about improving self and protecting the self as well as being good at a social level. So it is appropriate for religion to regulate behaviour where the only "victim" is the self. On the basis that God actually does know what's best for you more than you do, then God does get to tell you what to do. If you believe of course.



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binary solo on 22 August 2016
VGPolyglot said:
binary solo said:

Homosexuality isn't a sin in the Bible. All sex is sinful unless between husband and wife, there's no difference between heterosexual or homosexual sex outside of marriage, it's all sinful according to the Bible. Being homosexual is not sinful, the Bible only says you can't have sex, it doesn't say being gay is sinful. The only difference is that marriage is a heterosexual institution because it is meant for procreation, and until science figures out otherwise a homosexual marriage cannot produce children, a 3rd party is required as well as 3rd party genetics. The Christians have merely incorrectly and over conservatively interpretted a few passages from the Old Testament.

"Homosexuality is not bad unless you act homosexual."

What does act homosexual mean?



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

Zkuq on 22 August 2016
binary solo said:
Zkuq said:

Yeah, doesn't fit my idea of good and evil either. Homosexuality doesn't harm anyone in any manner. On the contrary, it can bring people lots of joy (just like heterosexuality). I think you already got your answer from binary solo as to why homosexuality is a sin (which, apparently, is sort of a simplified statement).

Putting aside the question of harm, or not, from homosexual relations, religion is as concerned about harm to self as it is about harm to others. A lot of religious teachings are about improving self and protecting the self as well as being good at a social level. So it is appropriate for religion to regulate behaviour where the only "victim" is the self. On the basis that God actually does know what's best for you more than you do, then God does get to tell you what to do. If you believe of course.

That's my problem with God. It might help if God told us why something is bad instead of just saying it's bad. In cases where something is harmful to others, it's easy enough to believe it's bad even without proper reasoning. But in cases where it isn't... Yeah, would make more sense if I got a reason it's bad.