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I'm...

For it 139 84.24%
 
Against it 14 8.48%
 
Undecided 12 7.27%
 
Total:165
Pemalite said:
                                         

Everyone on this planet is born Athiest, my own country is Secular. - Thus when we start talking about medical issues, religious "law" should not be a factor, it's ultimately irrelevent as not everyone believes/follows whatever religion you believe anyway.
Same goes for Same-sex marriage, religious law/standards shouldn't play a part, if you don't agree with it on religious grounds, then that's fine, but don't restrict anyone else's freedom because of your religion, keep it to yourself.

As someone who works in the Health industry and having to assist those with some highly debilitating issues and immense pain, Euthanasia is a HUMANE practice that should be considered for extreme cases with input from professionals, carers and family in a tribunal like environment.
In somewhere like the USA, people don't think twice about executing criminals. (Some who have been found innocent after the fact.) Yet are worried about someone writhing in pain where no help exists? I think that's some pretty terrible double standards in my opinion.

You consider it humane because you assume that it will end the patient's suffering.  In fact, you have no idea what comes after this life.  Holding up euthanasia as a means to end suffering is total guess-work and euthanasia advocates selling this to patients without a shred of proof of what lies on the other side is wrong.

I for one know that hell is real and I also know that the suffering there is far worse than anything in this life and I want to help as many people as possible avoid it.  That is why I oppose euthanasia.

For the record, I am a Catholic and I strongly oppose the death penalty, as well.



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Illusion said:
Pemalite said:
                                         

Everyone on this planet is born Athiest, my own country is Secular. - Thus when we start talking about medical issues, religious "law" should not be a factor, it's ultimately irrelevent as not everyone believes/follows whatever religion you believe anyway.
Same goes for Same-sex marriage, religious law/standards shouldn't play a part, if you don't agree with it on religious grounds, then that's fine, but don't restrict anyone else's freedom because of your religion, keep it to yourself.

As someone who works in the Health industry and having to assist those with some highly debilitating issues and immense pain, Euthanasia is a HUMANE practice that should be considered for extreme cases with input from professionals, carers and family in a tribunal like environment.
In somewhere like the USA, people don't think twice about executing criminals. (Some who have been found innocent after the fact.) Yet are worried about someone writhing in pain where no help exists? I think that's some pretty terrible double standards in my opinion.

You consider it humane because you assume that it will end the patient's suffering.  In fact, you have no idea what comes after this life.  Holding up euthanasia as a means to end suffering is total guess-work and euthanasia advocates selling this to patients without a shred of proof of what lies on the other side is wrong.

I for one know that hell is real and I also know that the suffering there is far worse than anything in this life and I want to help as many people as possible avoid it.  That is why I oppose euthanasia.

For the record, I am a Catholic and I strongly oppose the death penalty, as well.

How do you know hell is real?



KLXVER said:
Illusion said:

You consider it humane because you assume that it will end the patient's suffering.  In fact, you have no idea what comes after this life.  Holding up euthanasia as a means to end suffering is total guess-work and euthanasia advocates selling this to patients without a shred of proof of what lies on the other side is wrong.

I for one know that hell is real and I also know that the suffering there is far worse than anything in this life and I want to help as many people as possible avoid it.  That is why I oppose euthanasia.

For the record, I am a Catholic and I strongly oppose the death penalty, as well.

How do you know hell is real?

I lived an especially immoral life before I converted and God showed me what would happen to me if I continued.  Fortunately, we have a God who loves us infinitely and heaven can be ours if only we simply give ourselves to Him.



Illusion said:
KLXVER said:

How do you know hell is real?

I lived an especially immoral life before I converted and God showed me what would happen to me if I continued.  Fortunately, we have a God who loves us infinitely and heaven can be ours if only we simply give ourselves to Him.

Thats great for you. If he ever decides to turn up and show me something, Ill give myself to him as well.



I am strongly against euthanasia. It is a mortal sin to commit suicide and by taking the easy way out. Jesus did not die for people to commit suicide. If you commit suicide you will burn for an eternity in the pits of hell. Euthanasia is assisted suicide and the people assisting a person to die are committing murder.



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
I am strongly against euthanasia. It is a mortal sin to commit suicide and by taking the easy way out. Jesus did not die for people to commit suicide. If you commit suicide you will burn for an eternity in the pits of hell. Euthanasia is assisted suicide and the people assisting a person to die are committing murder.

Would be easier to take you seriously if you didnt call yourself Dark Lord...



Illusion said:
KLXVER said:

How do you know hell is real?

I lived an especially immoral life before I converted and God showed me what would happen to me if I continued.  Fortunately, we have a God who loves us infinitely and heaven can be ours if only we simply give ourselves to Him.

I am sure what you experienced was quite convincing from your personal perspective but surely you can understand that from someone else's perspective your claim doesn't have any basis in observable fact.  Think about what you can prove to someone who doesn't share your religious views.  Even if we assume that at least one form of afterlife exists, can we really be sure that suicide makes you more likely to have a hellish afterlife?  Isn't it equally plausible that suicide is actually the fast track to a utopian afterlife? 



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KLXVER said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
I am strongly against euthanasia. It is a mortal sin to commit suicide and by taking the easy way out. Jesus did not die for people to commit suicide. If you commit suicide you will burn for an eternity in the pits of hell. Euthanasia is assisted suicide and the people assisting a person to die are committing murder.

Would be easier to take you seriously if you didnt call yourself Dark Lord...

Perhaps he doesn't want his victims to escape their suffering so easily! 



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Illusion said:

You consider it humane because you assume that it will end the patient's suffering.  In fact, you have no idea what comes after this life.  Holding up euthanasia as a means to end suffering is total guess-work and euthanasia advocates selling this to patients without a shred of proof of what lies on the other side is wrong.

I for one know that hell is real and I also know that the suffering there is far worse than anything in this life and I want to help as many people as possible avoid it.  That is why I oppose euthanasia.

For the record, I am a Catholic and I strongly oppose the death penalty, as well.

The fact is, you have no idea what comes after this life either. No one actually does.

And untill you can profide indesputable proof that your God exists, that Hell exists... Then you should not be using your religion to control and define other peoples lives, you have no right. It's an individual choice, you have no right to take away someone elses freedom on what they can do with their life.
And no, the Bible isn't proof, it is the claim.

I work in the industry, I see people who lay on their bed perfectly still with tears rolling down their faces as they try and hold back screaming due to the  immense pain that no one can help with, if you think it's humane letting them suffer for potentially years like that, then you are sorely mistaken, have a heart for these people. - Actually, go and observe and spend time with these people, it might just open your eyes up to the damage you are causing them by denying them Euthenasia.



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For, assuming proper understanding from the person to be euthanized and restrictment of euthanasia to only the most severe conditions.