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Have to be honest, factoring in these quotes plus the Eurogamer report which is backed by multiple other sites ... this sounds basically like the Wii U only it's actually a portable.

The not wanting development teams/resources to have to increase kinda hints too that the hardware jump from Wii U is not that large, which is basically what a Tegra X1 is, which is what they're reportedly using in the dev kits.



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RolStoppable said:

Read the actual quote instead of the headline.

"I can’t talk about this in detail yet, but we are aiming so that neither people who like games nor moms dislike it. I think that I want to release a game device that both customers who have much experience in gaming and customers who haven’t played much can enjoy greatly."

 

Sounds like they are going back to the Wiimote.



sethnintendo said:
RolStoppable said:

Read the actual quote instead of the headline.

"I can’t talk about this in detail yet, but we are aiming so that neither people who like games nor moms dislike it. I think that I want to release a game device that both customers who have much experience in gaming and customers who haven’t played much can enjoy greatly."

 

Sounds like they are going back to the Wiimote.

Or something Kinect like, they have patents for infared sensors. 

It's basically a portable Wii U tablet with some Kinect like stuff built in and detachable controller wings from the sounds of it, with a modest hardware bump from Wii U. Wii U still used Wiimotes too, it's not like they were disowned, you couldn't really even play Nintendo Land (the pack-in title) without Wiimotes.



RolStoppable said:
It's a good sign that Nintendo's terminology doesn't match the one of gamers.

I hope this is just sarcastic Rol, and I can't see through it.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Forget the casuals, just aim at getting the people that want to game.



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KungKras said:

That's worrying.

The casual/hardcore divide is bullshit. Nintendo shouldn't use inaccurate rethoric like that.

Back when Nintendo made the Wii and were successful, they said that they wanted to appeal to everyone. Everyone!

Well "casual" and "hardcore" really became the terms we used for different kind of gamers during the 7th gen though.



KLXVER said:
KungKras said:

That's worrying.

The casual/hardcore divide is bullshit. Nintendo shouldn't use inaccurate rethoric like that.

Back when Nintendo made the Wii and were successful, they said that they wanted to appeal to everyone. Everyone!

Well "casual" and "hardcore" really became the terms we used for different kind of gamers during the 7th gen though.

Casual is just a term for a person who doesn't play much or doesn't have much experience with gaming and generally prefers simple games if they do play. 

Core/hardcore is someone who plays a lot and generally prefers more complex types of games and can play basically any game with no primer/instruction/babying. 

It's just semantics, not sure why people get so twisted up about it. Saying "everytone is the same" is equally bullshit, the person who spends 20 hours a week playing Call of Duty and Street Fighter and Elder Scrolls is not the same as the soccer mom who plays Candy Crush for a few minutes a day or Just Dance once a month when the entire family gets together. 

We should be able to differniate that these are two fairly different audiences. That doesn't mean you can't create one device that appeals to both, but it's not easy, as the Wii U illustrated. 



Soundwave said:
KLXVER said:

Well "casual" and "hardcore" really became the terms we used for different kind of gamers during the 7th gen though.

Casual is just a term for a person who doesn't play much or doesn't have much experience with gaming and generally prefers simple games if they do play. 

Core/hardcore is someone who plays a lot and generally prefers more complex types of games and can play basically any game with no primer/instruction/babying. 

It's just semantics, not sure why people get so twisted up about it. Saying "everytone is the same same" is equally bullshit, the person who spends 20 hours a week playing Call of Duty or whatever is not the same as the soccer mom who plays Candy Crush for a few minutes a day. 

We should be able to differniate that these are two fairly different audiences. That doesn't mean you can't create one device that appeals to both, but it's not easy, as the Wii U illustrated. 

Im saying that the reason Nintendo said they were making a console for everybody with the Wii, is that those terms werent really used that much before the 7th gen.



I was hoping they were going to say something along the lines of them unifying their development environment so that handheld and console games work on the same family of devices. What they said didn't inspire confidence.



Well, ain´t that the aim of every Nintendo console ever? Even the Wii has some amazing games for the real deal gamers, like horror games and decent RPGs.
Mario Galaxy also is a gamer´s game in my opinion, it blends the best of the simplicity of Mario with cutting edge ideas, outside the box gameplay and gorgeous graphics.

Also, casual and hardcore are relative terms. If you only play Call of Duty, Lego and Fifa, you are, in my opinion, a casual gamer.

But I also play all of these casual stuff and also Valkyria Chronicles, Bloodbourne, Siren Blood Curse, things like that. So, if casual is Cooking Mama and Wii Sports, then I guess we are talking very different audiences.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.