From a recent interview with Aaron Greenberg, he stated that the Xbox Scorpio will be a very high end product and that it is targetting 4k gaming. But here there are several elements here that confuse me:

1) The Xbox Scorpio will supposedly have no non-VR exclusive games which will either force much more work on the developers or severely gimp the Scorpio version of the game. Games that run on Scorpio have to run on OG Xbox One(unless I'm mistaken). This will diminish the graphical fidelity of the Scorpio variant games.

2) Even the best current PC GPU cannot handle all 4k games at 60 frames per second and that card alone is worth more than the PS3 was when it first came out(which has other components inside which further inflates the cost of the console)

3) With MS putting alot of their exclusive titles on PC and implementing Xbox Play Anywhere, there is less incentive for PC gamers to get a Scorpio and consumers will have another option to play Xbox games in 4k via PC.

4) Given the cost of the console will probably be close to $1000US, how can it possibly succeed when the PS3 at $599US was simply too much for consumers? That was also considered premium at the time(blu ray drive, 4 USB ports, native PS2 backwards compatibility etc)?

Does anyone else think this all doesn't add up? Am I wrong in my skepticism?

Microsoft and Sony are turning consoles into highly optimized Home Computers. Scorpio and Neo are going to usher in a new era in tech.

Due to the greatly expanded feature set which will be near what people are used to on PC, the more premium pricing will be quite well accepted.

In addition to Scorpio and Neo, both companies are going to continue to offer lower end models for those that don't need all the bells and whistles.

Basically PlayStation and Xbox are finally leaving the world of being kids toys, and entering the world of personal computers and home electronics. We will have multiple versions that offer a range of prices and features, just like we have with TV's, Recievers, Phones, and everything else in the world of electronics.

You think that there will be no generations anymore ? I don't buy that Idea. What is the advantage to say "I have a 102910293031039103 of userbase" while they aren't active as the actual console gamers.

I don't know about Microsoft, since it seems that even they don't know what to do, but Sony said that there will have a PS5. If the 2 try to get rid of Generations, so Nintendo or any other company would continue to make generations and be much more successful.

So many questions, so few answers (from MS).

1. Games that are made for the Scorpio. There are two things to remember. Firstly, those games are much,much easier to program than games for the X1. Secondly, those games will NOT run (or run piss-poor) on an X1, contrary to what MS wants you to believe. The reason is very simple. Games for the X1 are designed around the on-die 32MB esram to achieve any meaningful results. The Scorpio will not have esram (it would be stupid to add 110GB/S expensive esram when you have over 320GB/s ram bandwidth. So Scorpio games run right out of the gddr ram, and if you simply run those games on a X1, you don't have any (or only the most rudimentary) esram benefits.

2. What you get out of a 6TF Scorpio you can roughly see by comparing it to a PC equipped with a GPU of the same power (also note these PCs typically run with higher power discrete Intel processors so the comparison is somewhat flawed right out of the gate). You'll note that the Scorpio likely ends in the 30fps ballpark (with reduced graphics settings).

3. I think it will be easy to transfer PC code to Scorpio code, as the hardware differences will be practically zero for the reasons stated above. The target people basically stay the same, people who do not want to hassle around PC architecture. Maybe even "low budget PC buyers" will start looking into a Scorpio (being identical to a good entry-level PC).

4. The cost basically depends on the type of cpu in the SoC. Neglecting for the moment that AMD cannot deliver a 6TF gpu at this time (an overclocked RX480 might do but these PC graphic cards draw 200W...). Everybody talks about Zen, of course. The problem is that Zen is the thing that is intended save AMD from bankrupcy (the only thing that kept AMD afloat in the past years are the console contracts). So this new cpu technology will not be offered for cheap, at least initially, because it absolutely has to "make hay" for AMD. Certainly a "Zen light" (no L3 cache, 6 cores only but higher clock than an 8 core unit) is imaginable, and so is a cpu construct with improved Jaguar design. I have no problem seeing a Scorpio at a $499 price point.

Why do people want to get rid of Generations ? 2-3 years after the start isn't the time where the companies start to make money with the Hardware ? If there isn't generations anymore, the companies would either raise the price of the consoles for more than it should be (it would make the console far more expensive than an actual Pc Upgrade). Microsoft already have all their games avaliable for the PC, so what would make people purchase Xboxs that will upgrade very often ?

Seems like people want to purchase a console, then be able to purchase a new console, overpriced because of the time, that will shift the focus from the previous console.

I don't remember exactly what was said, but Aaron Greenberg said something like that "What I mean with no exclusives is that Scorpio will be able to run all the accessories  and games that run on the Xbox One". Is Microsoft trying to state that a console only because it have Backwards is "beyond generations"?

1) Yes. But the same is true to PS4 -> PS4k (neo), although the differnce will be smaller, so less of a issue.
2) Yes, most games dont run at 60 fps at 4k max settings with everyone on, on a single gpu on pc.
3) Yes. Play anywhere, means less reason to get a scorpio.
4) No. The cost of the scorpio will "only" be somewhere around the 550-600$ range.

"Does anyone else think this all doesn't add up? Am I wrong in my skepticism?"

Its okay to be skeptical.
Scorpio wont target everyone, theyre going for the high end, with a 6-8 teraflop console.

Consoles are never as expensive as you think they're going to be. They get manufacturering discounts for buying bulk, like stocking up on paper towels at Costco for 1/2 the price you'd pay at a grocery store.

It won't be priced higher than $499, because any price above that is out of the range of mass market appeal, and therefore it won't sell in high enough volume for software sales to be profitable, so therefore the market for the system would never materialize and it would be discontinued. Microsoft may not make a profit on it at $499, and they may even take a slight loss, but they'll make it as powerful as they can, while being able to sell it at $499 or less and still be able to turn Scorpio into a successful platform business.

Totally different with Neo. Neo is basically a overclocked PS4 with double GPU with a few enhancements. If you do a game on Neo you'll just have to take the same binaries, deactivate GCN4 memory compression (and maybe others GCN4 enhancements) and reduce the resolution until the game runs the same than on Neo (because it's mandated by Sony). And that's it, your game will work on PS4.

If you develop a game on Scorpio (as most devs will do eventually, it's business), you'll have to re-develop, re-test and re-debug a second version for the XB1 because the tech is totally different so the binaries will be different. Also they'll develop games on Scorpio with no esram limitations so they'll have to do a different version for XB1 in order that the new modified (heavily reduced) framebuffer fit in the esram. 

NEO -> PS4 = PC customizations between different PC specs

Scorpio -> XB1 = Usual port between two different consoles

^Seriously doubt they keep the scorpio under 500$.

Its gonna launch at over 499$ and be a high end product. People that think thats too expensive, can get a XB1 slim, thats probably how MS see's it.

If Sony aims for 4.2 Teraflops and 399$, and MS is aiming for near 8 teraflops (almost twice as much), it ll be more than 100$ more expensive.

Basically less than 500$ for a scorpio is wishfull thinking / dreaming.

I wouldnt be surprised if it launched at 599$.