I consider 3DS to be a disappointment, I have said that for quite some time. I argued with tbone that it might not beat PS2 numbers as quickly, he might be right, does not change the fact that I do not think 3DS is not a beast. 

Also I said I don't know why I should bother, not that I am done. 

I left out not. Does not change the fact. 

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Tbone is right on the money.  The 3DS is a beast,  especially in a market dominated by mobile.  

Why are you so negative about Japan?  

There I was thinking it was just some anti Playstation bias and that you just couldn't stomach praising the ps4. 

But if you don't think a beastly beast like the 3DS was a beast then it's clearly not bias.  Just negativity. 

You're the yaya toure of all this and I'm the kolo.  

Because if the market shrinks, that means Western Gaming is all that is left for me to enjoy, which is happening. More and more franchises are jumping towards being mobile only (and unlike a few gems from that, they are usually crappy freemium games). It is the same reason I talked to Dr Vita, and said Tales should have been on that (Vita) as well, because guess what if Tales continue to decline, they might actually just move the whole franchise to mobile market.

It is the same reason Outlaw, Kresnik, and I will be disappointed in 400,000 for LTD of Persona (given I will be alright with it, but not impressed). It is not hidden agendas like yourself.  Also if anti-sony bias, tell that to my time played on those devices. 

Do you know that the user that made that thread was mocked by everyone in Gaf and he still is being mocked? lol

I don't remember anybody, and when I say anybody I mean Sales Age People, in other words, people who know about this matter, saying that Wii U would sell more than PS4. Nobody. 

Now, if you take serious random persons who know nothing about sales and just make statements about their favorite system just based on one week or less, that's your problem. But these kind of people are on both sides. There were crazy PS4 predictions for Japan after the western launch and japanese first week sales. But again, random people that are nobody.

My condolences to you my friend.  Hopefully you can overcome the negativity and join team kolo.  

I talk about the sales as sales. Emotionless.  Not swayed by a like or dislike for Japanese games.  Hence why you see real talk with me and not overly positive or negative analysis of the ps4 in Japan.  

It just call it like it is. A beast.  

Now on your concerns,  this gen on ps4 is looking better than last gen on ps3.  I guess you've forgotten because you only remember the better later years but the first few years in Japan was horrible for the ps3 in terms of Japanese games.  

You should be positive that it's improved this gen for ps4. Only difference is most of them have been on ps3 and Vita too.  In the next 12 months a lot of heavy hitters will be coming too. 

Basically if you own a ps4 and Vita you get a shit ton of Japanese games. 

I'm sorry but that's bs.  These so called sales people on gaf have been super negative throughout 2014 and a lot of 2015 regarding ps4 sales in Japan.  a lot were saying it would only sell 5/6m which looks laughable now.  

You're right that crazy random predictions were made all over the place but the opinions of these so called sales people were worthless too because they were polluted with absolute negativity.  

Even till today with this have 1 or 2 left over from that movement who push the Playstation has no Japanese future bs.  "everything will be NX or should be".  

You do know I owned Wii, PS3, PSP and DS, and can safetly say that no where near the same level, namely PSP and DS Japanese games. I also owned PS2, and can safely say nothing is remotely close to that (Not even counting the few gems dreamcast, gamecube and GBA had). 

Hell just PSP and PS3 outshine Vita and PS4 (they share a lot of games), the only thing PS4 has going for it vs last generation is microsoft is not trying to steal JRPG exclusive like it did in the early generation, and majority of those games showed up later in PS3 life (Minus Monolith Soft), but thing is, you don't seem to notice, is that this is not beasting. To be beasting which it might do in couple of months, is to sell around 40-50k, because I know it can.  

I do very much appreciate Vita right now (took me awhile to warm up to it), and the 3DS in terms of taste wise, but I still prefer DS over both of them when it was in its prime. Again you can check my library on this site to see how much DS and PS2 games I have (I have not updated it roughly in 4 years on this site). I am not even remotely buying as many japanese games in one year as I use to. That is not by choice, but rather lack of selection.

I mean that other studio, not monolith soft. Mistwalker. 

this thread reminds me of the good ol days where half the post were me and lawlight would have peaceful conversations xD

I really thought something amazing happened in japan with an extra 7 pages to read :p

I read that thread recently. I am not seeing many members mocking him in the early pages. In fact i see comments like ''WiiU has the first party plus MH and DQ, you are right what can go wrong?'' etc. He is still being mocked because of how thing turned out otherwise...

Also, for the bolded part. Not only people were saying this but in every media create when someone mentions the fact that PS4 is approaching WiiU there is a comment like ''lol it's still behind it?''. Let alone the fact that there is not a thread where a big number of members say ''that X franchise will elave Playstation for NX''. Just like the franchise would leave PS3 for the WiiU. In other words stealth port begging. Instead of commenting about the sales, they ask for games for their favorite system. Disgusting.

Guess Lawlight and I do have things in common sometimes.