Isn't that kinda dependant on the CPU cores that the SOC uses? The rumor is the ARM CPU that Nintendo could use would be the ARM A72, which would be quite powerful. 

LCGeek from NeoGaf has said actually the NX CPU is better than the PS4 CPU. We'll see if that's true or not. 

Adreno can give X1 a run for its money, but it looks like Nvidia is the one that got the nod. For a *hybrid* device it's unlikely there are many options better than what Nvidia will be able to do with a Pascal based Tegra, and unlike Adreno or PowerVR or whoever .... Nvidia doesn't have any phone or tablet partner win ... which means Nintendo likely is getting their chip from Nvidia for cheaper than what a company like Adreno would give it for. Nvidia's Tegra line needs this a hell of a lot more than Adreno or PowerVR do. 

So, for you, the fact that Eurogamer clearly, specifically, mention that only one of their sources had a unit with a fan, is not proof that the other sources didn't confirm that.

Ok, believe whatever you want. I'm not wasting my time anymore.

If you are basing that PowerPC emulation on the Xbox One's, Xbox 360 emulation then you might be surprised.

We know there is *some* emulation happening, Microsoft is also likely employing Binary translation, the games are also being completely repackaged in combination with some clever abstraction in a virtualised environment, but don't assume there is proper full emulation going on.

Emulation also requires substantual software engineering, in-case you aren't aware, this is Microsoft's strength, Sony and Nintendo can't hold a candle to Microsoft in this area.

Iwata that said in January 2013, more than 3 and half years late lots a thing changed, same goes for some Nintendo plans.

There's no indication that things changed, certainly not from the horse's mouth.

Eurogamer reported that 3DS using Nvidia dev kits, and they were right, 3DS rely early used Nvidia kits, but Nintendo ditch them because they did not deliver promised. Huge difference is that Eurogamer have that info for 3DS 16 months before launch, for NX they gave infos 7 months before launch, huge difference.

It's assumed that Eurogamer are right, but they've been wrong before. With 3DS, they called it DS2 (which is not what it was), they also claimed that Nvidia were a guarantee, but that wasn't true either.

Eurogamer are not to be taken as a legimate source when it comes to rumors, so using them as a basis for anything is pointless.

There's no way Tegra X1 would be used, because it's too power hungry, there's no reason to believe it's successor is being used for anything in the dedicated gaming market, because NVidia have outright said that it's only being used in their self drive or AI products.

Nvidia can't comment anything about NX chip if they are under strong Nintendo NDA, and we already know that NX NDA is very strong, we are 6 months before launch and nothing is confirmed expert march release date.

Nvidia can comment on a major business deal, in vague terms, they haven't done so, but they are obliged to for their investors.

Such information would have an effect on stock prices and to completely hold back any information is tantamount to fraud. We know nothing about the details surrounding any NDAs Nintendo has with their partners, so for you to say such a thing is a lie.

Only one rumors saying that Nvidia gave good offer to Nintendo. Nvidia most likely want to be on console market again and to have platform that will market their Tegra chip, I dont see what exactly here is hard to believe.

Nvidia giving their products away, without making a thing or only making enough to break even makes no sense. Businesses are in business to make money, Nvidia already have products that are using Tegra, which they are in full control of, which is a common trait among the majority of their product creation, from their GPUs, to self drive, to mobile.

There's no history of Nvidia making complete products for Nintendo, so it makes little sense to thing they would be now.

Actually rumours is that Nvidia canceled new K1 Tegra Shield because of Nintendo NX.

Which is an assumption, which makes no sense.

This rumor assumes that Nintendo got some crazy good deal, where NVidia are making basically nothing from it, to try and get back into the dedicated gaming device market, which they have had no interest in doing for years, since PS3.

They can continue to making money on a product that at least makes them a little something and build that up over time, but no they quit and go with a new partner that will basically cost them or make them make nothing in the process of the deal.

Fact that AMD was partner doesn't mean nothing if Nvidia has better mobile chips and better deal for Nintendo.

The fact that AMD were a partner means they have a relationship and AMD have provided a product that suited Nintendo's needs and one that they were able to make money from, Nvidia hasn't.

Nvidia aren't making anything if we go by the rumors, so it makes no sense for them from a business standpoint.

Nintendo would get a great product from AMD and one that is likely more profitable, since AMD products tend to be cheaper.

There are numerous options for Nintendo when you look at AMD, whether it's the home console or handheld market and Iwata basically said that Nintendo wants to make one development environment that can be tailored to multiple end devices, they want their business to be flexible for more than one segment of the dedicated gaming device market, a multifunctional device is more limiting than having multiple devices that you can develop as the need arises.

Maybe, but most likely Nintendo is using whole Tegra X1 chip with ARM cpu cores.

This came from Eurogamer, it's not legitimate and makes no sense for the reasons I've given before..

Nvidia has much better and suitable mobile chips than AMD, basically X1 or new X2 can be in handheld and can be used for hybrid concept for playing on TV. Like I wrote, it not hard to imagine that Nvidia offer good deal to Nintendo.

Not really, we know nothing of X2, besides that it's made for the self drive market.

AMD makes great mobile chips, performance per watt is better than X1, X2 can't be compared and AMD also has their own new mobile chips in development, which will be much more efficient than the current crop of AMD parts.

NVidia needs to make money from this, the rumors basically say they aren't, which shows that the rumor has no credibility all by itself.

Actually nothing goes in favour of AMD, only thing you can say is that AND anuched design wins and nothing more, we dont have one single information pointing that AMD will be in NX. On other hand we have infos from multiply sources and sites stating NX using NVidia.

Everything is in favor of AMD, from the history they share with Nintendo, to them being able to provide products and support, to making a profit and providing good prices for Nintendo, without shooting themselves in the foot, it all makes much more sense than Nvidia somehow deciding they need to be in the dedicated gaming device space, so they'll make no money to just to put their head in the door, when they have bigger concerns, like Self Drive and AI markets, along with already providing desktop level GPUs in Laptops, which is a big emerging market for the future.

AMD have even outright said they have semi-custom business that they are yet to detail, NVidia hasn't said anything of the sort and such topics need to be mentioned, because of their potential effects on stock prices.

We don't have multiple sources saying NVidia, we have multiple sites claiming they have sources, but all of this information could be coming from the same faker who really doesn't seem to understand how this business actually works and they don't seem to get that NVidia has to be able to make some money, a decent amount of money to make this even worthwhile for them to work with Nintendo.

You can't have it be that Nintendo are giving them a tonne of cash, but that they're somehow making out with a great deal here, it doesn't work both ways and Nvidia doesn't really have much experience in this market, they've not shown themselves to be great for this market, so it makes even less sense for Nintendo to use them because of those reasons.

Eurogamer and WSJ and some other posting infos they heard from their own sources, and when post informations like that they are very confident about infos they posting, they don't posting every random rumour they hear, thats why they are considered for reliable sources.

Those are not really legit, they're claims and ones that don't really make any sense.

You can fake confidence, many people do it every day, the fact that there are so many holes in these claims should be quite telling really.

Eurogamer have posted things they've believed to be real, but you know what, they've turned out to be wrong, like the DS2 things, like PS4's memory amount, the fact that Semi Accurate had to make NVidia lose money or make nothing in this rumor makes it essentially impossible to be true.

Also Nintendo is changing, they are going on big internal and external changes at Nintendo, so saying what Nintendo loves or not do, in this case is very weak argument.

Me saying about what Nintendo loves is based on their technical choices of wanting technology that requires low power and small formfactor boxes, it is based on evidence, which is the strongest kind of argument a person can make.

You and others are making claims based on rumors that have major holes, which others and myself have pointed out.

Nintendo making major changes is down to how they can provide software support their devices, how they can seamlessly get games on more than one device, which Iwata said was the point of their changes, which is something that he and others within important positions within Nintendo have never once actually made any statements to bring those points into question.

In the end you haven't really dealt with my points, not with real evidence, you've just used rumors, which are not supported by any past events relating to Nintendo to try and argue for something that makes no sense when you actually put this topic under a microscope.

In January 2014 (this is after his Jan 2013 comments obviously) Iwata said this:

“Still, I am not sure if the form factor (the size and configuration of the hardware) will be integrated. In contrast, the number of form factors mightincrease. Currently, we can only provide two form factors because if we had three or four different architectures, we would face serious shortages of software on every platform.

Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment.

Sounds like between 2013 and 2014 they did a lot of experimentation, and by 2014 they were considering a hybrid device, because by Jan 2014 suddenly he doesn't know anymore if they need one device or multiple. My guess is over time Nintendo couldn't resist the hybrid idea, they probably fell in love with the design/possibilities once they prototyped a unit. 

Isn't that kinda dependant on the CPU cores that the SOC uses? The rumor is the ARM CPU that Nintendo could use would be the ARM A72, which would be quite powerful. 

LCGeek from NeoGaf has said actually the NX CPU is better than the PS4 CPU. We'll see if that's true or not. 

Adreno can give X1 a run for its money, but it looks like Nvidia is the one that got the nod. For a *hybrid* device it's unlikely there are many options better than what Nvidia will be able to do with a Pascal based Tegra, and unlike Adreno or PowerVR or whoever .... Nvidia doesn't have any phone or tablet partner win ... which means Nintendo likely is getting their chip from Nvidia for cheaper than what a company like Adreno would give it for. Nvidia's Tegra line needs this a hell of a lot more than Adreno or PowerVR do. 

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