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Johnw1104 said:
 trump has the political acumen of a rabid badger

Best comment ever. 



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Soundwave said:
hunter_alien said:
As much as I (and probably the vast majority of the world) dislikes Trump (except Bateman) the reality is that Hilary's win was pretty much guaranteed for some time now. There is no way around this, but from the outside its pretty obvious that the USA has lost its image as the beacon of democracy for some time now. Pretty much everything yells as a manipulated election, and believe me, we eastern Europeans know

Hilary is not easy to beat. Obama, who is probably the most charismatic politican the world has seen in 20-30 years *barely* beat her in the primaries in 2008 (in fact she beat him on the popular vote) and has said that primary was his hardest election to win (not the presidency). Clinton runs a very disciplined campaign, and like her or not, she does have a very large base of support. Her supporters just don't post on Facebook 393848489 times a day like Bernie supporters do, but they're definitely there.  

If Trump ever thought this was going to be easy, he was very badly mistaken. 

Maybe. But if the Republicans had not had a total brain explosion and they'd voted for someone normal to run against Hillary they would have had a good chance at winning. Unfortunately John Kasich had no chance since there were at least 3 nutjobs in between him and the nomination. The Republican based has gone off the rails in it's rabid hatred of progressive politics to the point that they will nominated kooks for the highest office instead of solid, rational conservatives. 



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Seventizz said:
I have faith Trump will win the Commander In Chief position and do great things for America.

The debates will be the eye opener - guaranteed.

There is a major problem. One he is tanking in the polls, 2 people already know who Trump is, he is a very publicized person, debates Will not help him, If anything they will be a disaster for him. You may not like Clinton but she is a seasoned politician, she will easily take command of the Debates.

 

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JustcallmeRiff said:
JWeinCom said:

I think you misinterpreted me.

I support (most) of those things.  My issue with Hillary isn't that she didn't support them, but that she didn't support them soon enough.

Bernie for instance spoke out against the Iraq war before it happened, for gay marraige before it was popular, and for raising the minimum wage.

Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War, supported the defense of marraige act, and had nothing to say on minimum wage.  She only supported those things after the rest of the party started supporting them.  

So while it's good she supported them, it seems she did so more because she wanted votes than because she actually supports them.  I'd rather have a candidate who is forward thinking and does the right thing before it's the popular thing.

The clintons have always been triangulators they are never the first there but they get there. Except Health Care reform Hillary has been pushing for that since 1992.

And that's a problem.  Because when people were telling Bill Clinton to continue deregulating the commodities markets, he went along with it, while some others (admittedly few) realized the potential danger.

That's why I was such a strong proponent of Bernie.  He saw all of these issues ahead of time, and was on the right side of history nearly every time.  The people (with some help from the democratic party) fucked up big by not nominating him.



Trump is crazy and rude as hell. He is too erratic to be president. Hilary is a pathological liar, and a criminal who deserves a prison cell more than the presidency. I will not vote "for the lesser of 2 evils". I will vote Gary Johnson who would make a better president than either of them by far. I will continue to tell everyone I know that there isn't only 2 choices.



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JWeinCom said:
JustcallmeRiff said:

The clintons have always been triangulators they are never the first there but they get there. Except Health Care reform Hillary has been pushing for that since 1992.

And that's a problem.  Because when people were telling Bill Clinton to continue deregulating the commodities markets, he went along with it, while some others (admittedly few) realized the potential danger.

That's why I was such a strong proponent of Bernie.  He saw all of these issues ahead of time, and was on the right side of history nearly every time.  The people (with some help from the democratic party) fucked up big by not nominating him.

In Bill's day you could still compromise with the other side of the aisle for things like a assault weapons ban. I voted for Bernie Sanders in the California primary. I wanted to vote in November for my ideals instead of voting against someone else's. But here we are.



JustcallmeRiff said:
JWeinCom said:

And that's a problem.  Because when people were telling Bill Clinton to continue deregulating the commodities markets, he went along with it, while some others (admittedly few) realized the potential danger.

That's why I was such a strong proponent of Bernie.  He saw all of these issues ahead of time, and was on the right side of history nearly every time.  The people (with some help from the democratic party) fucked up big by not nominating him.

In Bill's day you could still compromise with the other side of the aisle for things like a assault weapons ban. I voted for Bernie Sanders in the California primary. I wanted to vote in November for my ideals instead of voting against someone else's. But here we are.

Unfortunately, that was a compromise Bill shouldn't have made.

The republican party has become increasingly less sane as time has went on.  Reagan supported the Brady Bill and amnesty for about 3 million immigrants.  Even Bush supported background checks and banning high capacity ammo.  George W also said he would be willing to appoint justices that were pro-choice.  These positions would completely disqualify them in today's politics.

The GOP became so fearful of losing the Tea Party voters that they doubled down on hardest stances.  And, that may help for congressional campaigns, but they're too extreme to win over swing voters.



JWeinCom said:
JustcallmeRiff said:

The clintons have always been triangulators they are never the first there but they get there. Except Health Care reform Hillary has been pushing for that since 1992.

And that's a problem.  Because when people were telling Bill Clinton to continue deregulating the commodities markets, he went along with it, while some others (admittedly few) realized the potential danger.

That's why I was such a strong proponent of Bernie.  He saw all of these issues ahead of time, and was on the right side of history nearly every time.  The people (with some help from the democratic party) fucked up big by not nominating him.

I like Bernie Sanders a lot and he was very correct on deregulation. 

That said his tax proposals scare me, a lot of his proposals would send the country into monster debt. 



binary solo said:
Soundwave said:

Hilary is not easy to beat. Obama, who is probably the most charismatic politican the world has seen in 20-30 years *barely* beat her in the primaries in 2008 (in fact she beat him on the popular vote) and has said that primary was his hardest election to win (not the presidency). Clinton runs a very disciplined campaign, and like her or not, she does have a very large base of support. Her supporters just don't post on Facebook 393848489 times a day like Bernie supporters do, but they're definitely there.  

If Trump ever thought this was going to be easy, he was very badly mistaken. 

Maybe. But if the Republicans had not had a total brain explosion and they'd voted for someone normal to run against Hillary they would have had a good chance at winning. Unfortunately John Kasich had no chance since there were at least 3 nutjobs in between him and the nomination. The Republican based has gone off the rails in it's rabid hatred of progressive politics to the point that they will nominated kooks for the highest office instead of solid, rational conservatives. 

Yes unfortunately the Republican party has become the party of ideological nuts and dim witted racists, rather than the party of small government, common sense taxes, etc. 



Soundwave said:
JWeinCom said:

And that's a problem.  Because when people were telling Bill Clinton to continue deregulating the commodities markets, he went along with it, while some others (admittedly few) realized the potential danger.

That's why I was such a strong proponent of Bernie.  He saw all of these issues ahead of time, and was on the right side of history nearly every time.  The people (with some help from the democratic party) fucked up big by not nominating him.

I like Bernie Sanders a lot and he was very correct on deregulation. 

That said his tax proposals scare me, a lot of his proposals would send the country into monster debt. 

How so? I don't necessarily agree with his proposals, but they should actually generate a surplus.  Do you think businesses would really contract enough to offset the higher taxes?