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Are the olympics going to become a disaster?

Yes! 79 49.07%
 
No! 75 46.58%
 
It won't be, because it'll be canceled! 7 4.35%
 
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Nuvendil on 09 August 2016
outlawauron said:
DonFerrari said:

And Brazil as a whole or even Rio as a whole isn't the place you are making it out to be. So why don't you use your own conclusion in there...

And sorry about NOLA... but it isn't just a ghetto, very near the river on the french part, close to the hotel for several blocks it was almost a dumpster.

The French Quarter is a dumpster, but that's because it's a hedonist paradise and tourist attraction not because you're in danger. People go there to get krunk and see naked ladies. 

The actual dangers of being in New Orleans are mostly limited to where you are in the town. There are some really terrible areas, but New Orleans is also seen as one of the best hosts in the world for major sporting events. They're very common picks to host Super Bowls, All-Star Games, etc. Even with it's exagerrated crime rates (by excluding all suburbs and only counting the 350k city population), it's still has lower crime levels than Rio de Janeiro.

Your comparison was suprising for me because of the sheer difference in those two cities, I don't think the problems are comparable. Such a scale difference.

Yeah, this is also true.



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FragilE^ on 09 August 2016

As a Swede, I wouldn't defend my country so aggresively. I'd probably bash it along witht he person who started it. Lots of patriots in Brazil, or are Swedes just not interested in their own country?



DonFerrari on 10 August 2016
Nuvendil said:
DonFerrari said:

And Brazil as a whole or even Rio as a whole isn't the place you are making it out to be. So why don't you use your own conclusion in there...

And sorry about NOLA... but it isn't just a ghetto, very near the river on the french part, close to the hotel for several blocks it was almost a dumpster.

Well I'm not going to rush to the defense of New Orleans.  It is one of the rougher - perhaps among the roughest - large cities in the country.  And some areas are still feeling the effects of the hurricane disaster that left it an utter wreck years back.  But to judge the US based on New Orleas would be like judging Brazil based on Rocinha.  Also, State crime rates vary widely as well.

And I aint judging US based on NoLa, but you and others were judging Brazil based on Rocinha (because as said in this very thread a lot of the criminality in Rio de Janeiro is due to numbers around the favelas area and drug dealing disputes) so don't ask for a threatment that you don't give.

outlawauron said:
DonFerrari said:

And Brazil as a whole or even Rio as a whole isn't the place you are making it out to be. So why don't you use your own conclusion in there...

And sorry about NOLA... but it isn't just a ghetto, very near the river on the french part, close to the hotel for several blocks it was almost a dumpster.

The French Quarter is a dumpster, but that's because it's a hedonist paradise and tourist attraction not because you're in danger. People go there to get krunk and see naked ladies. 

The actual dangers of being in New Orleans are mostly limited to where you are in the town. There are some really terrible areas, but New Orleans is also seen as one of the best hosts in the world for major sporting events. They're very common picks to host Super Bowls, All-Star Games, etc. Even with it's exagerrated crime rates (by excluding all suburbs and only counting the 350k city population), it's still has lower crime levels than Rio de Janeiro.

Your comparison was suprising for me because of the sheer difference in those two cities, I don't think the problems are comparable. Such a scale difference.

Sorry to tell you this. But it's dangerous for most people... myself, being used to roughier areas of Brazil were a lot more at easy than my colleages from Iowa.

And the actual dangers of Rio or São Paulo are similar, for people that live in the city and now the dangerous neighborhood it's not a big issue to live in those cities.

The problems are pretty much comparable if you have been to both cities... and I also cited Portland and Las Vegas (both I have been personally, besides NoLa and Rio that I also have been, and have you?) but if you want to throw a city that is world wide know for being criminal ridden I can say Detroit (most of the american I talk to they fear Detroit) or even pre 00's NYC.

And of course the scales are a little different. But what do you think would happen if NoLa had 12M citizens? It certainly would be in a lot worse shape than Rio.

FragilE^ said:
As a Swede, I wouldn't defend my country so aggresively. I'd probably bash it along witht he person who started it. Lots of patriots in Brazil, or are Swedes just not interested in their own country?

Maybe because we aren't defending the country, just talking about what is true and what is just media BS.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Acevil on 10 August 2016
FragilE^ said:
As a Swede, I wouldn't defend my country so aggresively. I'd probably bash it along witht he person who started it. Lots of patriots in Brazil, or are Swedes just not interested in their own country?

I feel as a Canadian, we complain about what is wrong when really things are better, than we do when things are worse (I some what consider it a peace time dilemma) . I think the Sweden falls under that category as well.

Also I think culturally both are countries do not attach ourselves into the country's culture as strongly, which means we are not as nationalist as other countries. 



 

Rogerioandrade on 11 August 2016
DonFerrari said:

And sure Brazil criminality, violence and corruption is over the top. My point is that the numbers are a lot inflated by internal killing between drug gangs. Sure USA numbers can also be inflated. But only looking at numbers can be deceiving.

 

I don´t think so. In fact, Brazil number of murders could potentially be higher than what we´ve seen. Many crimes happen in isolated regions in this country (like mainland North, North-East, Central-West regions), in farms, mines and smaller cities, that sometimes are not even reported to the police. 

It´s just like modern slavery numbers. Reports counts about 1000 people freed from slavery in the country last year, but estimates vary between 25 - 40 thousand people still living in those conditions in the country. It´s not hard to imagine that, considering that cases were found even in our biggest cities.

A lot of numbers about our social conditions are dubious...unfortunately



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memoryman3 on 11 August 2016

Everything seems to be going smoothly so far, save for the green pool incident.



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DonFerrari on 11 August 2016
Rogerioandrade said:
DonFerrari said:

And sure Brazil criminality, violence and corruption is over the top. My point is that the numbers are a lot inflated by internal killing between drug gangs. Sure USA numbers can also be inflated. But only looking at numbers can be deceiving.

 

I don´t think so. In fact, Brazil number of murders could potentially be higher than what we´ve seen. Many crimes happen in isolated regions in this country (like mainland North, North-East, Central-West regions), in farms, mines and smaller cities, that sometimes are not even reported to the police. 

It´s just like modern slavery numbers. Reports counts about 1000 people freed from slavery in the country last year, but estimates vary between 25 - 40 thousand people still living in those conditions in the country. It´s not hard to imagine that, considering that cases were found even in our biggest cities.

A lot of numbers about our social conditions are dubious...unfortunately

And a lot of those estimatives are asspull unfortunately as well, just like the paygap and other "correlationary studies".

And considering that 90% of brazil population lives in the big centers, the numbers on small cities wouldn't impact the numbers that much for homicide.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 11 August 2016
memoryman3 said:
Everything seems to be going smoothly so far, save for the green pool incident.

I hard they wanted to change the dog swim to frog swin and so changed the color of the water.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

AZWification on 11 August 2016

They certainly are for Romania so far.



                
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GameAnalyser on 11 August 2016

well us and china dominating as usual. boring!