Nuvendil said:
DonFerrari said:
And Brazil as a whole or even Rio as a whole isn't the place you are making it out to be. So why don't you use your own conclusion in there...
And sorry about NOLA... but it isn't just a ghetto, very near the river on the french part, close to the hotel for several blocks it was almost a dumpster.
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Well I'm not going to rush to the defense of New Orleans. It is one of the rougher - perhaps among the roughest - large cities in the country. And some areas are still feeling the effects of the hurricane disaster that left it an utter wreck years back. But to judge the US based on New Orleas would be like judging Brazil based on Rocinha. Also, State crime rates vary widely as well.
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And I aint judging US based on NoLa, but you and others were judging Brazil based on Rocinha (because as said in this very thread a lot of the criminality in Rio de Janeiro is due to numbers around the favelas area and drug dealing disputes) so don't ask for a threatment that you don't give.
outlawauron said:
DonFerrari said:
And Brazil as a whole or even Rio as a whole isn't the place you are making it out to be. So why don't you use your own conclusion in there...
And sorry about NOLA... but it isn't just a ghetto, very near the river on the french part, close to the hotel for several blocks it was almost a dumpster.
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The French Quarter is a dumpster, but that's because it's a hedonist paradise and tourist attraction not because you're in danger. People go there to get krunk and see naked ladies.
The actual dangers of being in New Orleans are mostly limited to where you are in the town. There are some really terrible areas, but New Orleans is also seen as one of the best hosts in the world for major sporting events. They're very common picks to host Super Bowls, All-Star Games, etc. Even with it's exagerrated crime rates (by excluding all suburbs and only counting the 350k city population), it's still has lower crime levels than Rio de Janeiro.
Your comparison was suprising for me because of the sheer difference in those two cities, I don't think the problems are comparable. Such a scale difference.
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Sorry to tell you this. But it's dangerous for most people... myself, being used to roughier areas of Brazil were a lot more at easy than my colleages from Iowa.
And the actual dangers of Rio or São Paulo are similar, for people that live in the city and now the dangerous neighborhood it's not a big issue to live in those cities.
The problems are pretty much comparable if you have been to both cities... and I also cited Portland and Las Vegas (both I have been personally, besides NoLa and Rio that I also have been, and have you?) but if you want to throw a city that is world wide know for being criminal ridden I can say Detroit (most of the american I talk to they fear Detroit) or even pre 00's NYC.
And of course the scales are a little different. But what do you think would happen if NoLa had 12M citizens? It certainly would be in a lot worse shape than Rio.
FragilE^ said: As a Swede, I wouldn't defend my country so aggresively. I'd probably bash it along witht he person who started it. Lots of patriots in Brazil, or are Swedes just not interested in their own country? |
Maybe because we aren't defending the country, just talking about what is true and what is just media BS.