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Nindendo gonna continue with the concept of WiiU? Good luck!



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fuallmofus said:
Nindendo gonna continue with the concept of WiiU? Good luck!

Umm.. It's more of a handheld than a home console.



                
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GhaudePhaede010 said:

There does seem to be two types of people here:

People that understand this is a hand held and not a dedicated home console.

And people like you that seem to think this is a home console.  :P

 

I know exactly what it is.
It is neither a handheld or a home console... It's actually both. It's a Hybrid device.

*slow clap* Congratulations in thinking it's a hand-held only device though.

Nor did I ever state it was strictly a home console either, so don't put words into my mouth.




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GhaudePhaede010 said:
Nem said:

You are making alot of leaps here. I didn't sugest anything, you have me confused with the other guy. I poked a hole in your logic.

If bundling things people don't want didn't work for MS, why would it work for Nintendo when it's just inflating the price?

If you believe in what you just said...

I guess you are correct. I thought you were the first guy. But since I mistook you, for the other guy, I will indulge you as a consequence.

Bundling Kinect, a product most did not want which raised the price of the base unit was obviously a terrible idea.

Bundling what is considered an essential selling point of this new console, while keeping the price down and giving everyone the same starting and end point sounds like a brilliant idea by comparison. If you do not understand that, please stay the fuck out of business. This shit is not rocket science. Would they sell the tablet without the controller next? Catering to the lowest common denominator when introducing a radical idea is essential to proper growth and development. This is about as laymen as I can explain it. One was an extra, unwanted feature and the other is an essential and desired feature. This is a no brainer.

Maybe its a no brainer for you, but it holds no logic. Bundling everything while keeping the price down? That is a physical impossibility given Nintendo admits that they won't sell systems at a loss anymore.

If they can have a system that is a portable with a docking station then it makes sense to offer the docking station as an option to reduce the price.

Though i do think Nintendo would just try to shove stuff down our throats like Microsoft tried to. We will see. But i don't see any chance for what can be essentially an overpriced portable wich can connect to the TV. Quite honestly, that is partially what the Vita TV is and it was a disaster.

 

The real point here is: Portables above 250€/$ won't fly. Wether you can connect them to the TV or not.



Nem said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

If you believe in what you just said...

I guess you are correct. I thought you were the first guy. But since I mistook you, for the other guy, I will indulge you as a consequence.

Bundling Kinect, a product most did not want which raised the price of the base unit was obviously a terrible idea.

Bundling what is considered an essential selling point of this new console, while keeping the price down and giving everyone the same starting and end point sounds like a brilliant idea by comparison. If you do not understand that, please stay the fuck out of business. This shit is not rocket science. Would they sell the tablet without the controller next? Catering to the lowest common denominator when introducing a radical idea is essential to proper growth and development. This is about as laymen as I can explain it. One was an extra, unwanted feature and the other is an essential and desired feature. This is a no brainer.

Maybe its a no brainer for you, but it holds no logic. Bundling everything while keeping the price down? That is a physical impossibility given Nintendo admits that they won't sell systems at a loss anymore.

If they can have a system that is a portable with a docking station then it makes sense to offer the docking station as an option to reduce the price.

Though i do think Nintendo would just try to shove stuff down our throats like Microsoft tried to. We will see. But i don't see any chance for what can be essentially an overpriced portable wich can connect to the TV. Quite honestly, that is partially what the Vita TV is and it was a disaster.

 

The real point here is: Portables above 250€/$ won't fly. Wether you can connect them to the TV or not.

I will say this though If they can run Android apps I think they can. That adds huge value to a device and prices it favorably compared to many mid/high-end tablets, a 16GB iPad Mini for instance is $400 alone. 

Besides, y'know lets actually look at this ...

The Wii + DS cost most people $400-$420 combined ($250 for the Wii + $150-$170 for the DS)

The Wii U + 3DS is $500 for the standard models most people buy, $600 if you bought both at launch. 

So how is the NX at $250 or even $300, that basically does the same as the DS/3DS + Wii/Wii U in one box overpriced?

People need to get over the 3DS launch IMO ... it was an extremely mediocre launch with an extremely crappy hardware and an unwhelming gimmick of a 3D screen that gave half the people that played it a headache. 

The PSP sold very well at $250, five years prior no less, in fact it was outselling the DS for a good while there until Nintendo started to hit pay dirt with the expanded audience stuff like Brain Training and Nintendogs. 



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I don't believe this!! not even a bit!!!

So basically is Wii U! between PS3 and PS4!



Switch!!!

So its a re-skinned Wii U then.



zippy said:
So its a re-skinned Wii U then.

Maybe, it depends on where the spec actually sits here. "Between PS3 and PS4" is a fairly large variance, lets hope it's at least in between the two. 

I have to think at least in home/docked mode that it can run at 600+ GFLOPS at least, otherwise I don't think games like the new Sonic (also for PS4/XB1) and Dragon Quest XI could run on it at an acceptable HDTV resolution. I hope third parties start announcing more games, because if there's more PS4/XB1 ports well then it must be able to handle ports from those systems even if they're likely not 100% on par. 



fedfed said:
I don't believe this!! not even a bit!!!

So basically is Wii U! between PS3 and PS4!

More like a "Reversed" Wii U.

The Wii U would house all it's processing in the stationary home device.
The Wii U would stream the game to the handheld.

The NX would house all it's processing in the mobile device.
The NX would stream the game to the stationary home device and display it on the TV. (Hopefully wirelessly and/or physically to recharge.)

It's still going to be able to display the game on the TV or the Handheld. It just won't have the same "range" limitations as the Wii U as it should truly be portable, whether that is going to be something people care about... Remains to be seen.

It will also have graphics capabilities less than that of the Xbox One which has copped so much ridicule for being under powered.

Soundwave said:
zippy said:
So its a re-skinned Wii U then.

Maybe, it depends on where the spec actually sits here. "Between PS3 and PS4" is a fairly large variance, lets hope it's at least in between the two. 

I have to think at least in home/docked mode that it can run at 600+ GFLOPS at least, otherwise I don't think games like the new Sonic (also for PS4/XB1) and Dragon Quest XI could run on it at an acceptable HDTV resolution. I hope third parties start announcing more games, because if there's more PS4/XB1 ports well then it must be able to handle ports from those systems even if they're likely not 100% on par. 

What kind of Gflop?



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Pemalite said:
fedfed said:
I don't believe this!! not even a bit!!!

So basically is Wii U! between PS3 and PS4!

More like a "Reversed" Wii U.

The Wii U would house all it's processing in the stationary home device.
The Wii U would stream the game to the handheld.

The NX would house all it's processing in the mobile device.
The NX would stream the game to the stationary home device and display it on the TV. (Hopefully wirelessly and/or physically to recharge.)

With graphics capabilities less than the Xbox One which has copped so much ridicule for being under powered.

Soundwave said:

Maybe, it depends on where the spec actually sits here. "Between PS3 and PS4" is a fairly large variance, lets hope it's at least in between the two. 

I have to think at least in home/docked mode that it can run at 600+ GFLOPS at least, otherwise I don't think games like the new Sonic (also for PS4/XB1) and Dragon Quest XI could run on it at an acceptable HDTV resolution. I hope third parties start announcing more games, because if there's more PS4/XB1 ports well then it must be able to handle ports from those systems even if they're likely not 100% on par. 

What kind of Gflop?

No one would be ridiculing the XBox One for being underpowered if it was a tablet you could carry around anywhere with you, instead of something the size of a 1980s VCR. 

If the NX can plausibly run current generation games in a portable form factor, that is honestly the most impressive piece of video game hardware of the last 10 years fairly easily.