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Kerotan said:
bluedawgs said:
I predicted this on gaf last year i think and got laughed out of the building, but I still think PS4 will sell 2 million this year in Japan, the holidays should be real good for it, and the neo will definitely increase that baseline along with the endless games starting soon and lasting until the end of the year

I personally think 1.7m this year but you're tight.  If you predicted the 2016 sales last year you were laughed at and called crazy.  Nobody expected the ps4 to sell as well as it is and now that it has they're shifting the goal posts so they can keep saying ps4 sales aren't good.  Which they are. 

Seriusly?

Have you at least saw what were the GAF prediction in the prediction game?

 

Most people predicted PS4 between 1.6-1.8 million this year.

 

About me, i know you probabily don't about me but still, i don't say PS4 sales aren't good, well now surely i can't. Just not as impressive as people on VGC believe.

 

Like really, is like VGC is too, TOOOOOOOOOO much optimist with things, while GAF is too doom and doom. Both are exaggerated.



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Kerotan said:
Jranation said:
I guess the NX is the only thing that can possibly beat the 3DS hardware and software sales.

What a strange comment.  

 

Ps4 has beaten the 3DS most weeks in 2016. 

 

If you mean lifetime then I seriously doubt the NX will beat the 3DS. 

 

3DS heavy decline from DS. 

I expect NX to at least decline from 3DS too 

 

The 3DS have also beaten the PS4 in most weeks in 2015 XD 

 

Im just saying out of the announced/released consoles/handheld. The NX has the possibility of beating the 3DS. And the 3DS has a huge lead this gen from the others. Of course this is only my own opinion. While it looks like for you its already a No. 



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Jranation said:
Kerotan said:

What a strange comment.  

 

Ps4 has beaten the 3DS most weeks in 2016. 

 

If you mean lifetime then I seriously doubt the NX will beat the 3DS. 

 

3DS heavy decline from DS. 

I expect NX to at least decline from 3DS too 

 

The 3DS have also beaten the PS4 in most weeks in 2015 XD 

 

Im just saying out of the announced/released consoles/handheld. The NX has the possibility of beating the 3DS. And the 3DS has a huge lead this gen from the others. Of course this is only my own opinion. While it looks like for you its already a No. 

But you're comparing apples with oranges my friend.  

 

The 3DS vs PS4 is just a fun side comparison not a serious one.  The mighty 3DS being taken on by the doomed ps4 in the land of handhelds.  

 

The ps4 isn't meant to beat the 3DS ever.  But it's somehow managed to consistently do it this year.  It's a once off thing. 

 

You and others should be comparing the ps4 to the Wii U/x1.  Saying wow 3DS beat the ps4 this week is like me saying wow android and iOS devices destroyed the 3DS this week.  

 

 



Ryng_Tolu said:
Kerotan said:

I personally think 1.7m this year but you're tight.  If you predicted the 2016 sales last year you were laughed at and called crazy.  Nobody expected the ps4 to sell as well as it is and now that it has they're shifting the goal posts so they can keep saying ps4 sales aren't good.  Which they are. 

Seriusly?

Have you at least saw what were the GAF prediction in the prediction game?

 

Most people predicted PS4 between 1.6-1.8 million this year.

 

About me, i know you probabily don't about me but still, i don't say PS4 sales aren't good, well now surely i can't. Just not as impressive as people on VGC believe.

 

Like really, is like VGC is too, TOOOOOOOOOO much optimist with things, while GAF is too doom and doom. Both are exaggerated.

There's only me and like 2/3 others on Vgchartz who are saying ps4 Japan sales are good.  Most people around here try to downplay it's Japanese sales.  

 

Gaf is on a whole other level of negativity though. You say the average production was 1.6m this year but that's a recent prediction.  they were made when it was obvious the ps4 was going to be a success in Japan.  Go back to 2014 and you'll see what gaf really thought.  Most said 5/6m lifetime.  

 

By the end of this year it will be around 4m lifetime already.  End of fiscal year 2017 it will be over 6m.  And it's going to sell well for another 3 years plus after that.  Gaf got it badly wrong and so did many more.  

 

I know it's hard for people to swallow their pride and admit the ps4 is the sole shining light in the japanese home console market but they should because the longer they deny it the sillier they will look.  

 



Kerotan said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

Seriusly?

Have you at least saw what were the GAF prediction in the prediction game?

 

Most people predicted PS4 between 1.6-1.8 million this year.

 

About me, i know you probabily don't about me but still, i don't say PS4 sales aren't good, well now surely i can't. Just not as impressive as people on VGC believe.

 

Like really, is like VGC is too, TOOOOOOOOOO much optimist with things, while GAF is too doom and doom. Both are exaggerated.

There's only me and like 2/3 others on Vgchartz who are saying ps4 Japan sales are good.  Most people around here try to downplay it's Japanese sales.  

 

Gaf is on a whole other level of negativity though. You say the average production was 1.6m this year but that's a recent prediction.  they were made when it was obvious the ps4 was going to be a success in Japan.  Go back to 2014 and you'll see what gaf really thought.  Most said 5/6m lifetime.  

 

By the end of this year it will be around 4m lifetime already.  End of fiscal year 2017 it will be over 6m.  And it's going to sell well for another 3 years plus after that.  Gaf got it badly wrong and so did many more.  

 

I know it's hard for people to swallow their pride and admit the ps4 is the sole shining light in the japanese home console market but they should because the longer they deny it the sillier they will look.  

 

I think that Square Enix Japan will be more active this generation. This can help the sales of the PS4 in Japan.



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Kirby's legs are amazing.
Nice sales for 3DS and PS4. Everything else dead as always.



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Software:

01./01. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi / Tempura (Level 5) {2016.07.16} (¥4.800) - 100.105 / 901.023 (-41%)

Good week this week. Still a poor total by series standards but promising for legs.

02./00. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons X: God Chapter / Dragon Chapter (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2016.07.28} (¥4.800) - 87.510 / NEW

Massive bomba. Puzzles and Dragons pretty much done except on mobile.

03./00. [PS4] The Idolm@ster: Platinum Stars # (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.07.28} (¥8.200) - 76.165 / NEW

Surprisingly good sales. Good to see it have potential on ps4.

04./00. [PSV] Toukiden 2 # (Koei Tecmo) {2016.07.28} (¥6.800) - 59.032 / NEW
05./00. [PS4] Toukiden 2 # (Koei Tecmo) {2016.07.28} (¥7.800) - 46.334 / NEW

Bad sales but the ps4 getting a good % of sales. God eater 3 ps4 sales should be respectable too.

06./02. [PSV] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana # (Nihon Falcom) {2016.07.21} (¥6.800) - 13.860 / 57.613 (-68%)

Very good second week.



This week's releases

{2016.08.03}

[PSV] [PS4] [PS3] Dynasty Warriors: Ei Ketsu Den # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) (¥5.800) (¥6.800)

{2016.08.04}
[3DS] Etrian Odyssey V: The End of the Long Myth # <RPG> (Atlus) (¥6.480)


[3DS] Dragon Ball: Fusions # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.700)


[3DS] 12-Sai. Koisuru Diary <ADV> (Happinet) (¥5.815)

[PSV] Genkai Tokki: Seven Pirates # <RPG> (Compile Heart) (¥6.800)

[PS4] Wasteland 2: Director's Cut <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) (¥7.500)

[PS4] Resident Evil: Revelations 2 [Best Price] <ADV> (Capcom) (¥2.990)