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Very poor test. It's no even funny as satire.



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39/50, but this test doesn't strike me as an accurate measuring stick for this sort of thing.



a 50/50 is hardcore. A female probably buys her man flowers for the sake of equality at this stage.



WolfpackN64 said:
JRPGfan said:

Probably because a Garbadge collector, is much easier to get? and doesnt require 7years of study?

Ok, so because you studied, you deserve a higher wage?

Honestly yes.... if someone spends 7years to study, with high risks of failour to pass, and costs of study.

The person that instead can work for 7years, makeing money, should probably be payed less.

 

At the very least it should even out, so the doctor by the end of his career has made as much or more than the garbadge collector.

I think its okay there isnt equal pay for everything.

I think how much some move stars and singers make is borderline gross though.



DragonRouge said:
WolfpackN64 said:

But why do doctors get paid more then garbadge collectors?

How many people in the world can pick up the garbage on your street?

How many people can crack open your skull, meddle with your brain and not kill you in the process?

But does that mean one job is more important than the other? Modern medecine has advanced our health by leaps and bounds. Modern garbadge collection however, has done the exact same thing.



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JRPGfan said:
WolfpackN64 said:

Ok, so because you studied, you deserve a higher wage?

Honestly yes.... if someone spends 7years to study, with high risks of failour to pass, and costs of study.

The person that instead can work for 7years, makeing money, should probably be payed less.

 

At the very least it should even out, so the doctor by the end of his career has made as much or more than the garbadge collector.

I think its okay there isnt equal pay for everything.

I think how much some move stars and singers make is borderline gross though.

Cost of study is something an individual can't control, so lets factor that out (education should also be free in my mind). One could also ask the question. Is the period of one's college education really so difficult one should be compensated for it for his entire life? As a college student, I'm also having a lot of fun.

Usually docters make much more at the end of their career then a garbadge collector. I'm not saying doctors shouldn't make a good living, since their work is very important. I'm just saying that you shouldn't see an education as a reason just to earn more. That garbadge collector will have been working for those 7 years the doctor has had his education.

I study Japanese and that's not an easy course. It's a difficult language starting from dutch to learn Japanese and you have to factor in societal and philosophical courses as well. Will I make as much as a doctor? No. Will I make as much as an economy student? Probably not. One could argue the doctor has the most useful job and the economist will get paid the most, but I would argue neither deserves to earn much more then average. If one finds the average too low, then one should demand a higher average and minimum wage for all.



WolfpackN64 said:

The point is that jobs mostly filled in by women (the care sector for example) gets paid less then sectors mostly filled in by men (engineering for example). Women who do work in engineering jobs generally do not get as high up as their male counterparts (even more disproportionally as the amount of women working in these sectors). Female CEO's are often not paid as much as their male counterparts (but since a company usually has one CEO at a time, it isn't as easy to make a comparison, but a good recent example is AMD where Rory Read got paid more then the current CEO Lisa Su).

Since women still take up maternal and household work (more so then men) in this day and age, a larger percentage of women work part time. Part time and flexible work more often pays less then a fulltime (usually less per hour as well).

I can give you a source, but it's in Dutch, so I don't know if you'll be able to read it.

http://pvda.be/sites/default/files/documents/Program/PVDA/goleft13gender_0.pdf

It's from the study service of the Workers Party of Belgium (note that not everything they talk about is applicable in the USA)

Again, you aren't comparing the same jobs. That's also another problem with the wage gap: It compares jobs that aren't essentially the same. More engineers are needed. You also have to keep in mind men join the most jobs where death rates are sky high. 90% workplace fatalities are men. If a job pays less, move to another field that pays more. Simple as that. And no, a woman doesn't get paid less as an engineer because she's a woman, it's because she puts less work, less hours, and is most likely part time. These jobs men mostly dominate aren't easy. I'd certainly rather work in heath care than as a petroleum engineer, construction worker, or a miner. Guarantee you that you'll barely see any females there (and I don't blame them for not considering those jobs). If all jobs were required to pay the same just because women choose lower paying jobs, I'm pretty sure most men would want to go for the same jobs that most women go for. After all, it pays the same, isn't as grueling, and there's a less chance of getting killed. If they did that, who would do the important jobs to keep the cities and homes running? Oh, that's right: they are paid more for these jobs because of the demand of needed workers.



Moonlighter said:
WolfpackN64 said:

The point is that jobs mostly filled in by women (the care sector for example) gets paid less then sectors mostly filled in by men (engineering for example). Women who do work in engineering jobs generally do not get as high up as their male counterparts (even more disproportionally as the amount of women working in these sectors). Female CEO's are often not paid as much as their male counterparts (but since a company usually has one CEO at a time, it isn't as easy to make a comparison, but a good recent example is AMD where Rory Read got paid more then the current CEO Lisa Su).

Since women still take up maternal and household work (more so then men) in this day and age, a larger percentage of women work part time. Part time and flexible work more often pays less then a fulltime (usually less per hour as well).

I can give you a source, but it's in Dutch, so I don't know if you'll be able to read it.

http://pvda.be/sites/default/files/documents/Program/PVDA/goleft13gender_0.pdf

It's from the study service of the Workers Party of Belgium (note that not everything they talk about is applicable in the USA)

Again, you aren't comparing the same jobs. That's also another problem with the wage gap: It compares jobs that aren't essentially the same. More engineers are needed. You also have to keep in mind men join the most jobs where death rates are sky high. 90% workplace fatalities are men. If a job pays less, move to another field that pays more. Simple as that. And no, a woman doesn't get paid less as an engineer because she's a woman, it's because she puts less work, less hours, and is most likely part time. These jobs men mostly dominate aren't easy. I'd certainly rather work in heath care than as a petroleum engineer, construction worker, or a miner. Guarantee you that you'll barely see any females there (and I don't blame them for not considering those jobs). If all jobs were required to pay the same just because women choose lower paying jobs, I'm pretty sure most men would want to go for the same jobs that most women go for. After all, it pays the same, isn't as grueling, and there's a less chance of getting killed. If they did that, who would do the important jobs to keep the cities and homes running? Oh, that's right: they are paid more for these jobs because of the demand of needed workers.

But it doesn't matter if it are the same jobs or not. The matter of fact is that the wage gap still exists due to the way the job market is structured and that isn't the womens fault.



Not as much cancer as I thought there would be. I got 22/50.



WolfpackN64 said:
DragonRouge said:

How many people in the world can pick up the garbage on your street?

How many people can crack open your skull, meddle with your brain and not kill you in the process?

But does that mean one job is more important than the other? Modern medecine has advanced our health by leaps and bounds. Modern garbadge collection however, has done the exact same thing.

I agree, but its a matter of market value. Almost everyone can collect gargabe, thus the compensation for doing so is low. Performing surgery requires a lot of study and even more practice, there are much fewer people capable of doing it and as a result, the aforementioned compensation is much greater.

I'm not saying one is more important than the other, just pointing out the fact that highly specialized jobs pay higher wages.