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The NFL Thread 2016: New England Patriots Win Super Bowl LI

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Who will win Super Bowl LI?

New England Patriots 51 47.66%
 
Kansas City Chiefs 3 2.80%
 
Pittsburgh Steelers 6 5.61%
 
Other (AFC) 3 2.80%
 
Dallas Cowboys 10 9.35%
 
Atlanta Falcons 15 14.02%
 
Seattle Seahawks 5 4.67%
 
Green Bay Packers 5 4.67%
 
Other (NFC) 4 3.74%
 
Scoreboard 5 4.67%
 
Total:107
KLAMarine said:

Tom Brady is a great QB no doubt but this is a team sport so major props to Hightower, someone I feel goes underappreciated. Stopped Beast Mode in SB49 from getting a game-winning touchdown and forced a fumble at a very key point in time in SB51.

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Major props to you big fella.

Yeah, I think he has to be free agent priority #1 for New England this offseason. He definitely goes underappreciated, but then again, I think just about everyone on that team that isn't Brady and Gronk (when he's not hurt) does. I'd really like to be able to look at the Pats' defense and say "it definitely got better" in the offseason. Bringing Hightower back (and finally establishing some continuity with the LBs) would go a long ways towards doing that.

Worst case scenario, I think he gets franchise tagged. Certainly didn't think I'd say this after the 2015 season, but it'd be great to get Logan Ryan back as well. Kind of doubt he stays, though; I suspect he'll be getting some offers from other teams in need of a secondary upgrade.



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It was super entertaining to go back in this thread and start reading when the second half started. In a single page the posts go from 'Wow falcons are blowing out the Pats' to 'holy shit Pats win'.

I was standing for the entire 4th quarter + OT.  As a Pats fan that took a few years off my life.



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Falcons SB51 loss is one of the biggest chokes in the history of all team sports.



I know the Falcons loss on paper looks worse because they were up by so much, but I still feel like the Hawks loss to the Pats in Superbowl 49 was still worse. The Hawks were RIGHT there and literally needed 2 yards to end the game. The fact they couldn't get it done and literally threw away the game is still the worse IMO. Especially when you consider the Hawks were about to be one of the few teams to win back to back.



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FatedReality said:
I know the Falcons loss on paper looks worse because they were up by so much, but I still feel like the Hawks loss to the Pats in Superbowl 49 was still worse. The Hawks were RIGHT there and literally needed 2 yards to end the game. The fact they couldn't get it done and literally threw away the game is still the worse IMO. Especially when you consider the Hawks were about to be one of the few teams to win back to back.

Gonna disagree there. The slant call was absolutely idiotic (passing wasn't inherently a dumb idea, but it should have been a fade or corner), but it's just one single call. Add that to the fact that Seattle was extremely fortunate to be in that situation in the first place from what up until last Sunday was the most ridiculous catch in Super Bowl history, and it essentially amounts to throwing away a game that you probably shouldn't have won anyway with a single dumb call. Which is still terrible (it is a Super Bowl), but Atlanta's situation, which is making at least half a dozen terrible playcalls/otherwise stupid decisions and blowing a 25 point lead which you absolutely deserved, is somehow orders of magnitude worse.

Personally, I'd argue the external circumstances surrounding the Falcons make things worse too. Yeah, the Seahawks could have been back to back champs, but the Falcons were on the cusp of winning their first championship ever, and then proceeded to choke away a huge lead just like they did the last time they got eliminated from the playoffs (2012 NFC Championship). On top of that, Atlanta is just such a title deprived town, that having another championship failure is expected at this point. At least Seattle has won a major sports championship in the past twenty years. Atlanta hasn't won anything since the Braves in the 1990s.



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I guess with the Falcons I personally and I think a large portion of people didn't expect much from them. No doubt they were a good team, but I was kind of scratching my head wondering how the Falcons ended up being the team representing the NFC in the Superbowl. So as soon as things started to go down hill for the Falcons and the Pats started to gain their footing I had a feeling the game would make a turn for the worst, especially since the Pats always seem to comeback into games in this fashion.

As for the Hawks they were pretty solid favorites in that game, one could argue maybe not favorites but at the very least a 50/50 equal to the pats. The Hawks staying in the game and making a crazy comeback when things seemed to be over was just fantastic. Then that all got taken away by one fatal call.

I think it hurts more when you can look back and pinpoint exactly what you did wrong and know it was that single dumb mistake that cost you the game, rather then looking back and thinking hmmmm there were a lot of mistakes at the end and it all just fell apart.



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FatedReality said:
I guess with the Falcons I personally and I think a large portion of people didn't expect much from them. No doubt they were a good team, but I was kind of scratching my head wondering how the Falcons ended up being the team representing the NFC in the Superbowl. So as soon as things started to go down hill for the Falcons and the Pats started to gain their footing I had a feeling the game would make a turn for the worst, especially since the Pats always seem to comeback into games in this fashion.

As for the Hawks they were pretty solid favorites in that game, one could argue maybe not favorites but at the very least a 50/50 equal to the pats. The Hawks staying in the game and making a crazy comeback when things seemed to be over was just fantastic. Then that all got taken away by one fatal call.

I think it hurts more when you can look back and pinpoint exactly what you did wrong and know it was that single dumb mistake that cost you the game, rather then looking back and thinking hmmmm there were a lot of mistakes at the end and it all just fell apart.

I think it's worth noting that expectations are not confined solely to the lead up before games; they can (and will) change as a game progresses. With that in mind, I think it's pretty fair to say that while quite a few people didn't think Atlanta would stand much of a chance before the game, there were very few people who didn't expect them to win the Super Bowl when they took a 28-3 lead. Heck, if you had offered me a $100 bet on the Super Bowl winner as of 10:00 left in the 3rd quarter, I would've picked Atlanta without a second thought. Atlanta's loss is worse, in my opinion, because just about everybody was damn sure the Falcons were going to win at multiple points in time. In XLIX, there was still sizeable doubt until the end. Lynch had been stood up on a 3rd and goal from the two yard line earlier in the game, so it wasn't a guaranteed score.

As for being able to look back on one mistake vs. a whole bunch, I suspect that depends a lot on how exactly you define a "worse" loss. However, I suspect it'll be a much more demoralizing loss for the Falcons than the Seahawks. Seattle was in position to win and made a stupid mistake; that's one thing. You know where you screwed up, and you know how to fix your mistake if you get in that position again (at least, theoretically, Seattle apparently still tried passing from the one yard line in a regular season game). If you're the Falcons, and you just blew a 25 point lead, where do you even begin? There's so many different places where things went wrong, and you know Atlanta is going to have a doubt in the back of their minds whenever they get a big lead next season. The psychological impacts of collapsing like that are enormous, whereas a single stupid mistake doesn't get into your head in quite the same way.



Was reading an article and then saw one talking about what the Patriots should do with Garapalo, or however you spell that QB's name.

Only read like a paragraph, but saw them mention trade for draft pics or something, you know due to the fact that Brady wants to play for another 5+ years. But it just made me laugh out loud thinking about that.

Without Goodell being a douche and continuing with his bullheaded determination to punish Brady, Garapalo would have never played a game. But, Goodell got his way, resulting in Brady's 4 or 5 game suspension. So Garapalo started a few games and looked good.

We know the rest of the story. The Patriots do well without Brady, he comes back rested, has an amazing year and even wins the Superbowl. The sugar on top is that they now have an unneeded quarterback with amazing trade value.
So what will the Patriots get for Garapolo? Whatever it is, it wouldn't have happened without that meddling old man Goodell. So from a patriots fan, "Thank You Goodell."