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Forums - Movies & TV - Ghostbusters budget (150 Million) need 500 million worldwide to be considered successful (NOT BREAK EVEN)

naruball said:
DonFerrari said:

Please explain to me how a movie making the company lose money isn't a flop or bomb....

Guess Angry Joe haven't watch it. (A single example. Great. That sure disproves my point)

The Three Musketeers (2001) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1509767/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_10

Budget:

$75,000,000 (estimated)

Opening Weekend:

$8,674,452

Gross:

$20,315,324 (USA) (16 December 2011)

= bomb/flop

John Carter

Budget:

$263,700,000 (estimated)

Opening Weekend:

$30,180,188 (USA) (9 March 2012)

Gross:

$73,058,679 (USA) (22 June 2012)

= bomb/flop
Look up any lists with movies that flopped. It's not movies that simply didn't break even, but movies that did so badly that there were no plans for a sequel and cost the studio a ton of money. This is not case here.

But if it makes you feel better calling it a flop/bomb, by all means, do so. Not gonna stop you.

Bwahaha! So you criticize him for looking at one source, yet you look at one market? Also, I thought this was about Sony movies?

 

Musketeers made $132M WW.  So, the studio saw about $73M of that.  If it had a small marketing budget, it most likely made them profit on home video.

 

John Carter made $284M WW, which means the studio saw only $156M.  So, yes, it is a flop.  But guess what, so is Ghostbusters.  It'll never break even, even with home video.  

 

I suggest you stop your blind defense of this movie and look at the facts.  You may have liked it, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a financial disaster.  In fact, I would bet after all this is blown over, you'll watch it again and see it's not that great.  Like Star Wars fans did with the prequels.



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JRPGfan said:
Peh said:
Never ever will this make $500 million.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=ghostbusters2016.htm

The people who wanted to watch the movie already did, and the rest will be just curious to see it. The numbers of people seeing it decreases with time. After 1 month or 2 month. No one will care for it anymore. Probably estimated world wide money will be between $200 and $250 million.

So it wont even flop? It ll earn back more than its production costs? a shame.

I think it does good if something is crap, it flops hard enough for them to realise they made a mistake.

All the trailers for the movie still look crap, and most of the reviewers I trust, all say that the movie was shallow and poor.

No, it won't.  First, I think $250M is too high an estimate, though, it definitely has a shot at $200M.  But, let's say it does make $250M.  After all is said and done, the studio only sees about 55% of the box office gross.  That would mean Sony will only see $138M, below it's production budget AND it doesn't include the millions they spent on advertising.  Like I said earlier, this movie probably needs at least $300-$320M at the box office to break even.



I actually liked the movie, but I have no idea how the budget ended up in the realm of 150m just for production costs.... I've got a feeling Sony just made a mistake handing this to Feig, who'd never done anything like this before, and he didn't realise how much what he invisioned would cost to turn into CG. Ghostbusters is essentially the reboot of an 80's b-movie horror-comedy and should never have been allowed that kind of budget.



how is the budget of this movie so high? It stars a bunch of nobodies...



Darwinianevolution said:
That's what happens when you antagonize with the potential userbase and make a whole drama about it.

/t



"You should be banned. Youre clearly flaming the president and even his brother who you know nothing about. Dont be such a partisan hack"

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naruball said:
DonFerrari said:

Please explain to me how a movie making the company lose money isn't a flop or bomb....

Guess Angry Joe haven't watch it. (A single example. Great. That sure disproves my point)

The Three Musketeers (2001) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1509767/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_10

Budget:

$75,000,000 (estimated)

Opening Weekend:

$8,674,452

Gross:

$20,315,324 (USA) (16 December 2011)

= bomb/flop

John Carter

Budget:

$263,700,000 (estimated)

Opening Weekend:

$30,180,188 (USA) (9 March 2012)

Gross:

$73,058,679 (USA) (22 June 2012)

= bomb/flop
Look up any lists with movies that flopped. It's not movies that simply didn't break even, but movies that did so badly that there were no plans for a sequel and cost the studio a ton of money. This is not case here.

But if it makes you feel better calling it a flop/bomb, by all means, do so. Not gonna stop you.

Owwww... so having bigger flops make this not being a flop... great.

So since a lot of game sell more than 10k or 50k some flops do the other games weren't flop... I'll put you to manage my company and when we are losing a lot of money you can say everything is good because there are companies that do even worse.

Was this how you justified bad grades on school to your parents... there is this colleague that done worse.

I gave one example because you said no one that watched it said it was bad, and on angry joe there are 3 saying it, it already defeats your point.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Couldn't have happened to a nicer movie, director and production company.  When you look into the history of how the Ghostbusters reboot in its current form actually came about from the leaked Sony emails that were made available on the internet, you'll shake your head in disbelief.

Watch Redlettermedia's review and dissection of this abomination of a movie (Angry Joe is a bit over the top for my liking)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEKreyTkvA

And then watch this comprehensive clip from Midnight's Edge for the full history behind how the long rumored and dormant Ghostbusters 3 script morphed into the disastrous reboot thanks to the top brass at Sony...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-6VLuz75yw



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

NightDragon83 said:

Couldn't have happened to a nicer movie, director and production company.  When you look into the history of how the Ghostbusters reboot in its current form actually came about from the leaked Sony emails that were made available on the internet, you'll shake your head in disbelief.

Watch Redlettermedia's review and dissection of this abomination of a movie (Angry Joe is a bit over the top for my liking)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEKreyTkvA

And then watch this comprehensive clip from Midnight's Edge for the full history behind how the long rumored and dormant Ghostbusters 3 script morphed into the disastrous reboot thanks to the top brass at Sony...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-6VLuz75yw

Sony hack was so benefitial to understanding the bad choices of Amy Pascal in regards to this Franchise. 



 

I think Hollywood should embrace "mid-tier" films more with the 30-60 million range. You can do quality comedy and horror with range of budget.



Augen said:
I think Hollywood should embrace "mid-tier" films more with the 30-60 million range. You can do quality comedy and horror with range of budget.

Make more films, about good written plots & storys, and less about CGI & crazy stunts + explosions.

Take a more european approach to movies. Its possible to make good movies without too much action in them.

Hollywood loves to go "oh we cant write anything good? its okay... we ll just add a car chase here, and a explosion of something there, a action stun here"

Its like they think they dont need a good script, they can just get away with doing crazy expensive action scenes instead.

 

I fully agree with you Augen.

More mid tier cost movies instead. Budgets dont need to be this big, and they dont need all those special effects.

What they need is better story telling.