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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

Just some facts... I'll be posting my opinion at a later point.

Oh and... who of you guys are christians btw?



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Peh said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

Just some facts... I'll be posting my opinion at a later point.

Oh and... who of you guys are christians btw?

Links to an interesting page about Saudi Arabia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrians_in_Saudi_Arabia

Shouldn't state as facts though as wikipedia is not always correct and on the page I've linked to you can see conflicting information from various sources about figures.

Personally I was born Christian but realised at 13 it was complete bollocks that should have no place in the modern world same as all abrahamic religions



bonzobanana said:
Peh said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

Just some facts... I'll be posting my opinion at a later point.

Oh and... who of you guys are christians btw?

Links to an interesting page about Saudi Arabia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrians_in_Saudi_Arabia

Shouldn't state as facts though as wikipedia is not always correct and on the page I've linked to you can see conflicting information from various sources about figures.

Personally I was born Christian but realised at 13 it was complete bollocks that should have no place in the modern world same as all abrahamic religions

I don't know why you just mention abrahamic religions. 

Religion is an outdated tool to control the masses. Nowadays it is simply organised crime under the guise of good intentions. It needs to go.



hershel_layton said:

I'm with you on that opinion.

 

Too many people act as though it's a very easy decision. It's not. It'll have an impact on many people for the generations to come.

 

I just hate how Saudi Arabia won't even accept any of them. Shows how disgusting of a country Saudi Arabia is. To think they won't even help their own fellow brothers and sisters. 

 

besides, the migrants would be accustomed to Saudi Arabia's laws much quicker if you think about it. They follow Islam, many Syrian refugees/immigrants do as well, easy transition

The world as it is isn't as noble as you make it out to be. The easiest decision is the one that will benefit oneself the most in the immediate future and the somewhat long term future ... 

It's a very easy decision for most out there to deny the aid of others in need when it's most convenient to avoid that issue at hand ... 

I mean how many people have generously (I mean a lot of investment here) helped those in need (outside of their kin) and I don't mean small donations here or there but I mean owing their drastically improved lifestyles to their own personal messiah ? 



I'm with Merkel on this one. Damn right the refugees come with problems. It costs a ton of money, it asks for a lot from german citizens and it will continue to bring problems for decades to come. But I for once do not want to be remembered by future generations as an asshole who doesn't care about other people. The sacrifices we have to make are little in the big picture. All day long people here are yelling about how they would love to help people who live under bad conditions but they are just not able to. Then they pay their 5 € a month to save the children and feel like a better human. Now, right now, when they actually have the chance to do something, they do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Instead, they want people out of their country, they are afraid they couldn't be as rich as they are tomorrow and whatnot. Nationalism on the rise because of fear and hate. It makes me sick.

Ok, that's just some people, I also know many guys and lads who are doing everything they can. We are helping out in a local refugee camp. We don't get paid, we do it just to help these people. There are 12 families here form Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq. All good people, my son loves to play with the other children. We help them maintain their houses, explain them how everything works in germany (the waste seperation is a real problem for them ^^), we translate their documents and really do all we can to help them integrate. But then we also get up in the middle of the night to fight some goddamn nazis who are throwing rocks at the camp for no reason at all. They don't know these people, they just hate them for no reason at all. It makes me so fucking sick.

Anyway, people are fast with prejudices. Of course there are bound to be some assholes in such a big refugee crisis, but I am absolutely convinced that the majority really needs help. Countless refugees told me how they didn't want to leave their country but they had no choice. They are also not uneducated as you hear it from certain groups. In our refugee camps, there is a high school teacher, a doctor and even a physics professor! All they need to do is learn our language and they could help our economy in a great way. Germany is dying for educated workers for crying out loud!

I beg you, if you want to make any judge in this topic, first go out there and really deal with what's up. Talk to the people, see for yourself how "bad" they really are. Don't just jump to conclusions because of overdramatized stories in the news. Don't judge a whole group if people just because two or three assholes decided to go postal. It's not fair in any way.

These people have nowhere else to go. It's not our duty to help them, but it is a big fat giant test of history. Think very closely about how you and your generation should be remembered in future history books. That's all I have to say.



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Peh said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

Just some facts... I'll be posting my opinion at a later point.

Oh and... who of you guys are christians btw?

What an awkward question.

Is there a reason you ask?



 

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Are these people kept for a period of time until things get better in their country or are they granted citizenship?



Mystro-Sama said:
Are these people kept for a period of time until things get better in their country or are they granted citizenship?

They are asking for asylum, but the process takes very much time. One fellow here is waiting since 9 months just to get interviewed. If they are granted asylum, they may stay in germany and work here. If not, they have to leave. Right now many many people here are just waiting and have nothing to do all day. They aren't allowed to work and they only get 25 € a week to live.



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OdinHades said:

I'm with Merkel on this one. Damn right the refugees come with problems. It costs a ton of money, it asks for a lot from german citizens and it will continue to bring problems for decades to come. But I for once do not want to be remembered by future generations as an asshole who doesn't care about other people. The sacrifices we have to make are little in the big picture. All day long people here are yelling about how they would love to help people who live under bad conditions but they are just not able to. Then they pay their 5 € a month to save the children and feel like a better human. Now, right now, when they actually have the chance to do something, they do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Instead, they want people out of their country, they are afraid they couldn't be as rich as they are tomorrow and whatnot. Nationalism on the rise because of fear and hate. It makes me sick.

Ok, that's just some people, I also know many guys and lads who are doing everything they can. We are helping out in a local refugee camp. We don't get paid, we do it just to help these people. There are 12 families here form Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq. All good people, my son loves to play with the other children. We help them maintain their houses, explain them how everything works in germany (the waste seperation is a real problem for them ^^), we translate their documents and really do all we can to help them integrate. But then we also get up in the middle of the night to fight some goddamn nazis who are throwing rocks at the camp for no reason at all. They don't know these people, they just hate them for no reason at all. It makes me so fucking sick.

Anyway, people are fast with prejudices. Of course there are bound to be some assholes in such a big refugee crisis, but I am absolutely convinced that the majority really needs help. Countless refugees told me how they didn't want to leave their country but they had no choice. They are also not uneducated as you hear it from certain groups. In our refugee camps, there is a high school teacher, a doctor and even a physics professor! All they need to do is learn our language and they could help our economy in a great way. Germany is dying for educated workers for crying out loud!

I beg you, if you want to make any judge in this topic, first go out there and really deal with what's up. Talk to the people, see for yourself how "bad" they really are. Don't just jump to conclusions because of overdramatized stories in the news. Don't judge a whole group if people just because two or three assholes decided to go postal. It's not fair in any way.

These people have nowhere else to go. It's not our duty to help them, but it is a big fat giant test of history. Think very closely about how you and your generation should be remembered in future history books. That's all I have to say.

I fully agree with you. I guess there is nothing to add.



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hershel_layton said:
Peh said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

Just some facts... I'll be posting my opinion at a later point.

Oh and... who of you guys are christians btw?

What an awkward question.

Is there a reason you ask?

Sorry, I should've asked who is religious. Not just christian. There is a reason for me to ask this without going into detail. The reason is kind of obvious.



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