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Mr Puggsly on 29 July 2016
Kerotan said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Mmmhmmm...

I'm still saying have both. Both all the way.

Well I do have the pc + ps4 combo which is way better than ps4 + x1 since pc is getting all the xbox exclusives.  

 

Anyway read his reply above.  It's pretty obvious the ps4 is the best choice for him. 

Youre actually agreeing with me, PS4 alone isnt as good as more options. You have a gaming PC for that reason.

Also, the OP said he plays maybe 5 to 10 hours a week. Thats an avid gamer in my opinion. He could finish all the notable PS4 games in a few months at that rate. Unless hes a fan of niche Japanese stuff.



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Kerotan on 29 July 2016
Soonerman said:

I have been contemplating selling my Xbox One or trading it to get a Playstation 4. I can't deny that there are a lot of games that the PS4 has that I want to play plus I'm somewhat upset Microsoft is letting go of Kinect by removing things like Xbox Fitness. Sadly, I cannot have two consoles seeing how I'm a full-time professional with plenty of work to do plus in a committed relationship about to get married at the end of the year.

So there are a couple of issues before I do make that jump, though. First, I am a wire cutter and the fewer machines I have to watch TV, the better. The reason I enjoy my Xbox One is that I'm pretty casual, and it has the ESPN app and pretty much all the typical apps like Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, Hulu, and SlingTV, etc. I understand that PS4 does not have ESPN app except on the whole PS Vue I believe. But if I'm correct that PS TV thing charges to use, am I correct?

So let me know if it's worth it to make the switch for someone like me.

By the way Wii U owners, what apps does the Wii U have? I am also considering it if it has the apps I mentioned above.

Basically ps4 is the console for you.  If you ever want a future companion buy yourself a moderately powered pc.  Best of both worlds. 



aLkaLiNE on 29 July 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
aLkaLiNE said:

The push and pull Dynamic between two vocal minorities here is somewhat amusing.

Group A "We love you, join us"
Group B "Why not both? They're basically the same anyway"

I think it's funny that one group tries so hard to prove its different, while the next group tries so hard to prove they're the same.

Anyway, OP, does ESPN require a subscription? If yes, switch to the Ps4, bring your Netflix account over, and sign up for Vue to get that sports fix. Drop the ESPN account and you should be getting everything you need.

If the ESPN app is free and it really is holding you back, stick with your Xbox until the decision comes easier.

No, if you recommend both its because youre considering what they do different.

Group B is suggesting have both and therefore have more options.

Eh I probably shouldn't have generalized because there are people in here that are being supportive or helpful regardless of their personal preference, which is cool - and there's also way more than two main opinions that people are presenting here. My initial comment wasn't directed your way fwiw, I don't mean to sound like an asshole all the time.



cesarmgc on 29 July 2016

Good smartphone... Nice Gaming PC and an PS4 is the best combo :P



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Normchacho on 29 July 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
Kerotan said:

Well I do have the pc + ps4 combo which is way better than ps4 + x1 since pc is getting all the xbox exclusives.  

 

Anyway read his reply above.  It's pretty obvious the ps4 is the best choice for him. 

Youre actually agreeing with me, PS4 alone isnt as good as more options. You have a gaming PC for that reason.

Also, the OP said he plays maybe 5 to 10 hours a week. Thats an avid gamer in my opinion. He could finish all the notable PS4 games in a few months at that rate. Unless hes a fan of niche Japanese stuff.

So, because I'm a dork, I've done the math on this using the main+extras times from Howlongtobeat. I've included the notable remasters since he didn't have a PS3.

NDC = 30 hours

Bloodborne = 45 hours

Uncharted 4 = 17 hours

R&C = 11.5 hours

Infamous SS = 14 hours

TLOU:R = 17.5 hours

GOWIII:R = 10.5 hours

Until Dawn = 9 hours

The Witness = 25.5 hours

Driveclub = 35 hours

SFV = 2.5 hours

MLB 2016  = 39 hours

 

Assuming that he plays 7.5 hours a week, plays all of those games and nothing else, it would take him about 8 months to play all of them.

 

Of course, games will be coming out in that 6 month stretch as well. But it would still likely take him less than a year to get all caught up on "notable" PS4 games.

I'd like to reiterate that I agree with you that he probably shouldn't get rid of his Xbox One, but I totally understand him just not having the time to support two consoles.



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Soonerman on 29 July 2016
Normchacho said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Youre actually agreeing with me, PS4 alone isnt as good as more options. You have a gaming PC for that reason.

Also, the OP said he plays maybe 5 to 10 hours a week. Thats an avid gamer in my opinion. He could finish all the notable PS4 games in a few months at that rate. Unless hes a fan of niche Japanese stuff.

So, because I'm a dork, I've done the math on this using the main+extras times from Howlongtobeat. I've included the notable remasters since he didn't have a PS3.

NDC = 30 hours

Bloodborne = 45 hours

Uncharted 4 = 17 hours

R&C = 11.5 hours

Infamous SS = 14 hours

TLOU:R = 17.5 hours

GOWIII:R = 10.5 hours

Until Dawn = 9 hours

The Witness = 25.5 hours

Driveclub = 35 hours

SFV = 2.5 hours

MLB 2016  = 39 hours

 

Assuming that he plays 7.5 hours a week, plays all of those games and nothing else, it would take him about 8 months to play all of them.

 

Of course, games will be coming out in that 6 month stretch as well. But it would still likely take him less than a year to get all caught up on "notable" PS4 games.

I'd like to reiterate that I agree with you that he probably shouldn't get rid of his Xbox One, but I totally understand him just not having the time to support two consoles.

This is an excellent assessment haha. I have 14 games right now (not including all the monthly free downloads on Live). Of the 14 games, I finished Dead Rising 3, Ryse, and Defense Grid 3 (I bought my Xbox Day One Edition on release day). I'm playing the Master Chief Collection now cuz I never got to play the originals, I'm barely in the beginning of Halo 2. I have some RPGs in my lineup. No sports games and 3 family games cuz the fiancee is not a gamer, doesn't care for gaming and I promise her I would find something for her to use so she would let me buy it. So the 3 casual are Fantasia, Just Dance, and Zumba. 

I used to love JRPGs and third person adventure games. Still, do actually. I do like the Xbox but I think the JRPGs are calling me hence the itch to want to switch. Will I have time to play them? I'll be lucky if the fiancee lets me. But I really want to play the Final Fantasy 7 Remake so unless it comes ou to Xbox One I think I'm leaning towards switching. I might get a Roku (I tried to get a Roku TV but the fiancee wanted the dang Samsung TV from Costco which does have incredible image quality).

I don't have a SlingTV subscription, and so far what I have read from Vue doesn't really grabs my attention. The one thing I did like of SlingTV when I did the free trial was  being able to watch some shows that already aired. Does Vue have that too? Is there like a DVR option with the PS4 and the Vue app?



Normchacho on 29 July 2016
Soonerman said:

This is an excellent assessment haha. I have 14 games right now (not including all the monthly free downloads on Live). Of the 14 games, I finished Dead Rising 3, Ryse, and Defense Grid 3 (I bought my Xbox Day One Edition on release day). I'm playing the Master Chief Collection now cuz I never got to play the originals, I'm barely in the beginning of Halo 2. I have some RPGs in my lineup. No sports games and 3 family games cuz the fiancee is not a gamer, doesn't care for gaming and I promise her I would find something for her to use so she would let me buy it. So the 3 casual are Fantasia, Just Dance, and Zumba. 

I used to love JRPGs and third person adventure games. Still, do actually. I do like the Xbox but I think the JRPGs are calling me hence the itch to want to switch. Will I have time to play them? I'll be lucky if the fiancee lets me. But I really want to play the Final Fantasy 7 Remake so unless it comes ou to Xbox One I think I'm leaning towards switching. I might get a Roku (I tried to get a Roku TV but the fiancee wanted the dang Samsung TV from Costco which does have incredible image quality).

I don't have a SlingTV subscription, and so far what I have read from Vue doesn't really grabs my attention. The one thing I did like of SlingTV when I did the free trial was  being able to watch some shows that already aired. Does Vue have that too? Is there like a DVR option with the PS4 and the Vue app?

I get that. I work about 35 hours a week and I have school, so finding time to play everything I'd like it tough. I can only imagine it's even harder when you live with a significant other.

Your fiancee made the right call. While the Roku software in the TCL tvs is nice, image quality isn't great and I have doubts about their build quality (I work in the electronics department at Target).

Vue does have on demand content and the DVR is actually pretty interesting. It's cloud based and saves every episode of any show you have favorited for 28 days (Vue has a ludacric favorite limit of 500 shows). It's a cool service, and is a truly viable replacement for traditional cable, but if you're just interested in ESPN than I don't know if it would be worth it for you personally.



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COKTOE on 30 July 2016

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Azuren on 30 July 2016
Soonerman said:

This is an excellent assessment haha. I have 14 games right now (not including all the monthly free downloads on Live). Of the 14 games, I finished Dead Rising 3, Ryse, and Defense Grid 3 (I bought my Xbox Day One Edition on release day). I'm playing the Master Chief Collection now cuz I never got to play the originals, I'm barely in the beginning of Halo 2. I have some RPGs in my lineup. No sports games and 3 family games cuz the fiancee is not a gamer, doesn't care for gaming and I promise her I would find something for her to use so she would let me buy it. So the 3 casual are Fantasia, Just Dance, and Zumba. 

I used to love JRPGs and third person adventure games. Still, do actually. I do like the Xbox but I think the JRPGs are calling me hence the itch to want to switch. Will I have time to play them? I'll be lucky if the fiancee lets me. But I really want to play the Final Fantasy 7 Remake so unless it comes ou to Xbox One I think I'm leaning towards switching. I might get a Roku (I tried to get a Roku TV but the fiancee wanted the dang Samsung TV from Costco which does have incredible image quality).

I don't have a SlingTV subscription, and so far what I have read from Vue doesn't really grabs my attention. The one thing I did like of SlingTV when I did the free trial was  being able to watch some shows that already aired. Does Vue have that too? Is there like a DVR option with the PS4 and the Vue app?

If you like this person adventure, get inFAMOUS: Second Son and Bloodborne + The Old Hunters. They're both fantastic. 

 

Like Norm said, the TCL Roku TVs are questionable, but the Insignia are great. I have to disagree on the Samsung, though; oversaturated panels aren't my thing. I personally recommend a Sony: better processor, better OS, better color palette. 

 

All shows can be DVR'd for 28 days (with a limit of 500; a fairly high ceiling, honestly), and the Sports package is actually fairly comprehensive. I tried the Elite package (which included no more sports channels than the Sport package), and good god almighty, there are a lot of sports channels. It lists only a few on the package descriptions, but they include a good number of sports coverage for different regions under what they're considering to be one channel (even though it's a dozen or so).



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Azzanation on 30 July 2016
Azuren said:
Azzanation said:

A $350 PC will be on par to a PS4 and X1. Also you gain access to alot more exclusive games plus X1 games. With a choice with any controller you prefer since X1 and PS4 and 360 controllers all work with PCs now.

 

What a console does a PC will do better and more. Since he already owns an X1 theres no point in changing since both consoles are similar. I recommand wait for the next phaze of consoles or go the PC/Laptop route.

Nope, you'd need to spend $400 to match a PS4. And PC exclusives are almost invariably designed with a keyboard/mouse in mind, so the only games you'll be playing with a controller are the ones you can play on console (unless you like badly optimized controls that have been adapted from KB/M via a third party program).

 

There are 187 games confirmed for PS4 that are unavailable on PC. That 187 things that PC can't do.

 

And you're arguing against similar platforms, and also saying he should have a PC and XB1? Sorry, but your bias is showing. If you own a PC, there is literally no reason to also own an XB1 anymore, or have you not been paying attention for the past two months? And I mean paying attention to facts, not just things that you find agreeable.

 

All that aside, I'm sure if he wanted a PC, he'd have one by now. He clearly wants a console, and he's clearly unimpressed by XB1 enough to want to try PS4.

Really? How do you gather that? Your suggesting a PS4 because it has more games confirmed than X1, if that’s the reason than I suggest PC because there are a lot more games than PS4 and a whole back catalogue and unlimited amount of apps to choose from. I bet most of them are VR and indie titles as well, something PC also has a lot of. Also 90% of games use controllers, only the RTS and MMOs are exclusive to Mouse and Keyboard since you can’t actually play them on a controller. Your knowledge on PC gaming doesn’t sound good at all.

 I suggested to stay with X1 since there’s hardly any difference between the two consoles. Your only suggestion is PS4 because of the amount of games confirmed... haha you don’t think Games are being made for PC and X1 as well? I don’t recommend owning both X1 and PC. If you have a PC than you don’t need either console since most of PS4 games comes to PC as well, example, SF5 and No Man Sky etc.

 Back to the OP.

 To avoid the hassle and you like using ESPN, just hold onto what you have because switching is not going to make a huge difference plus there are newer consoles around the corner which will most likely drop the current price even more on the older hardware so I suggest wait. The X1 is a great system with some great games coming out like ReCore, Sea Of Thieves, Gears 4 and Horizon 3 just to scrap the surface. Also X1 has a growing back catalogue of 360 games which means you wont need your 360 anymore and can still play your old games without paying for them again like the PS4.