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Was greater before 80 36.04%
 
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JustcallmeRiff said:
outlawauron said:

That's perfectly fine if that's what you want. These people want the government's primary responsibility to be infrastructure and defending its citizens. Everything else is secondary.

The government's responsibility is to Ensure life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.that if you read the Constitution.

I don't see how we're not in agreement here.



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Locknuts said:
JustcallmeRiff said:

Them being the most powerful couple was the point. It is sad that "victim mentality" was your take away from that comment. You could watch the speech for better context. Based on your preconceived notions I won't be holding my breath.

What preconceived notions?

Setting aside your notions like"fucking woman"and"lacky husband". You hear a black woman say "slavery" your default setting is she's playing the victim card. Did you watch the speech so you can based your opinion on proof and evidence?



JRPGfan said:
Fei-Hung said:

Yup, hard to believe it's the same actor. We may disagree, but it's still an amazing series. 

You seen Brink? It has Jack Black and Tim Robins, and it reminds me a lot of Newsroom although the Brink is more comedy. 

Never seen Brink, is there only 1 season of it?

Yup, only one season. 



JustcallmeRiff said:
Locknuts said:

What preconceived notions?

Setting aside your notions like"fucking woman"and"lacky husband". You hear a black woman say "slavery" your default setting is she's playing the victim card. Did you watch the speech so you can based your opinion on proof and evidence?

Yeah I watched it. She only really took a break from lying about how wonderful Hillary is to remind everyone about slavery.

I said 'lanky' not 'lacky'. 

As for my pre conceived notions, let me help you:

I believe in small government, low taxes and working hard for what you have. I don't believe in a national healthcare system and welfare should be limited to those who genuinely need it. There are too many who take advantage of welfare states around the world. If you are going to have a welfare system, you need to reject immigrants who cannot or will not work.

I am against invading foreign nations but if you do - for fucks sake don't take refugees from the countries you just helped invade! (Europe's issue right now)

I am for some form of gun control (however I think it's too late for the USA now). I believe socialism is cancer but that capitalism should be lightly regulated. I think individuals should be responsible for their own actions and not blame things like 'oppression' for their behaviour.

That should be enough for you to paint an accurate picture.



When they used to run a trade surplus and the currency wasn't just worthless toilet paper (2016 dollar worth 0.04 1913 cents).Damn even 10 years ago it was better than it is now, one of the biggest issues in the USA right now is can men use womens bathrooms or making all bathrooms gender neutral? Things are out of control.



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Back in the 90's, before it turned the middle east into a refugee machine?
Too much material here guys.



Locknuts said:

I believe in small government, low taxes and working hard for what you have. I don't believe in a national healthcare system and welfare should be limited to those who genuinely need it.

As another Australian... I am surprised you think this.

We have one of the best healthcare systems in the world with only moderate expenditure, high life expetency, low mortality rate, heck even a high chance of survival from cancer relative to most other developed nations.

It's certainly a far more efficient and versatile system than what the Americans have that's for sure.

I do agree about hard work and low taxes though, but when it comes to the welfare of our nations most vulnerable, everyone's health, everyone's education and the defense of this great land... Everyone... And I mean everyone. Need's to pitch in.

Locknuts said:


I am for some form of gun control (however I think it's too late for the USA now). I believe socialism is cancer but that capitalism should be lightly regulated. I think individuals should be responsible for their own actions and not blame things like 'oppression' for their behaviour.

Gun control has proven to work in Australia... BUT. The USA is different... They have far more pro-gun organizations and users and constitutional protections.
They also share multiple land borders with other nations which allows for the free-flow of people, drugs and weapons.

Australian's tend to care less as well.

Locknuts said:

 There are too many who take advantage of welfare states around the world. If you are going to have a welfare system, you need to reject immigrants who cannot or will not work.

You can't win. :P

People complain that immigrants are stealing all of our jobs... Or leeching off the welfare system. It's either/or. Chances are not both.
Immigrant's in Australia would only be getting the dole/peanuts anyway if they are on benefits, difficult/impossible to live on... And certainly under the poverty line.

There are multiple sectors of the Australian economy that are very supply/demand/population growth driven, which has made millions of Australian's wealthy. Like... Oh... Housing? So immigration isn't always a bad thing.



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Good question. Maybe when they had slaves.



When the media didn't feel the need to push their narrative by hand-picking a few stupid people and have them represent a movement comprised of millions of people. (Sounds familiar?)



Nettles said:
one of the biggest issues in the USA right now is can men use womens bathrooms or making all bathrooms gender neutral? Things are out of control.

If that is your biggest issue then you have a pretty damn good life.