that's subjective, but people have the right to think that too. That's not a "I hate Nintendo they should die" attitude

We hear it when Nintendo products do poorly.  We hear it when Sony products do poorly.  We hear it when Xbox products do poorly.

I found people to be much more friendly on the Nintendo forums, but that's called the evolution of the internet. I don't blame the site itself xD

I'm starting to think that with these divided rumors. The NX will be sold as two different units unified as one. This rumor is solely focused on the handheld. Then we have the console which it will "dock" to. Which would be more powerful and likely x86. Otherwise it'll be a little difficult for developers to make games for it and port them. It may even not be cost productive to do so with some of the bigger AAA titles.

This rumor seems to lines up with one that came out at the end of April that stated that Nvidia would provide chips for the handheld component of the NX. 
This makes me think we will be seeing a home console version before or after. Perhaps the handheld component was pushed up to this holiday and the console will come out in March? Just a potential possibility. I just want a really good system from Nintendo.

There's a first for everything I guess!

EDIT: Lol, I just saw the thread that's right above this one on the front page. How fitting haha.

Some people just want to invest in a single system that plays all the games they want, and I totally respect that. In that way, it's perfectly reasonable for someone to want Super Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon on the same system as Mass Effect, Grand Theft Auto, and Assassin's Creed. However, I think it's a short-sighted and ultimately counter-productive dream, as Nintendo going third-party would probably diminish the greatness and, for lack of a better word, anotherness of its games.

And then there is a more insidious group of jealous and insecure video game fans who want Nintendo to fail or to come under the domination of another company. I think for some the success of Nintendo strikes at the heart of what they believe video games should be: mature, serious, and exclusively for the video game faithful.

It's because people generally tend to expect, and in many ways demand, conformity. There's an idea about what a console traditionally should be, and Nintendo simply does not cater to those expectations. They pretty much consistently strive to make something different and unique every time, and as much as people like to act as if they want unique things, it's usually not true. People want tried and true. Tried and true controls, features, hardware design, etc...the more consistent the better.

Nintendo is "wacky." One year their console is a cube that plays little baby disks, then suddenly the next console abandons normal controllers and you're waving a stick around your room nonstop, then they throw that out and put a tablet with thumbsticks in your hand, now maybe we're gonna go "backwards" a good decade or so and bring back cartridges.

Compare that to the very straightforward evolution of Sony and MS consoles, and it's easy to see why Nintendo is viewed so differently. Sony and MS play things safe for the most part. Nintendo takes a lot of risks, and that simply doesn't always pan out

I share most of these experiences. I worked for VGChartz between 2007 and 2009 and that got me some insights into the video gaming industry. Back then this site was really big (the New York Times would quote our numbers, we had an interview with Reggie who said he regularly looked at the site, I wrote a monthly article for the biggest german Nintendo magazine) so we could exchange opinions with some pretty big figures in the industry (among my personal favorites were Sean Malstrom who's blog was simply brilliant back then and Michael Pachter). 

My experience was this: Even back in 2007-2008 the gaming industry simply did not want Nintendo to succeed. The gaming press continually trashed "casual gamers". Industry analysts and 3rd parties did the very same thing. We constantly heard that "the Wii bubble is about to burst" and here's the thing: The Wii success was based on Clayton Christensen's theory of disruptive technology (which I always try to advocate here but nobody listens). Nintendo's success was not a surprise, it was not a coincidence: It was based heavily on well backed up theory, based on the work that also made Steve Jobs successful at Apple. And everyone could have read through this work in a matter of a few weeks - but they didn't. 

Gaming journalism is just bad most of the times so maybe it was to be expected that these people wouldn't pick up on Nintendo's "secret of success" but here's the thing: Nintendo constantly went on and on about disruption (Wii) and Blue Ocean strategy (DS) being their strategies of choice and still nobody listened to them or gave this any coverage. Now gaming journalism may just be lazy - but companies like EA, Ubisoft, Acitvison and analysts like Pachter who make their money accurately predicting market trends? No way in hell. So lots of third party publishers gave the Wii token support just to appease their investors - and because they didn't really want Nintendo to be successful ("only Nintendo games sell on Nintendo consoles") I can only assume at least some of them consciously didn't put any effort into their games so they could show their investors the numbers and say "Look! It doesn't sell on that platform!" 

My point is: This whole story of "stupid casual gamers" (or the phrase that "Wii didn't have any hardcore games") didn't start in message forums. It was part of the industry speech back when Nintendo was successful and was constantly re-iterated. It was part of a marketing machine. I think Nintendo will be in a very bad position if NX fails (which is a possibility) but yeah: Your experience is not just a personal one. It's sort of a revers marketing slogan.  

But it's precisely the "uniqueness" of Nintendo console/games is whats hurting them in the long run, for it is making them a niche company. Which in turn its part of whats provoking that the general opinion that their consoles are "not powerful enough" or their games are for "kids". As of now Nintendo needs to open to a broader market. Thats not gonna make them lose their identity, if anything its just gonna make them get to a bigger audience. Which in turn is the best thing that could happen to them, and us, as fans, because bigger market = more games. 

You are either the winner or one of the losers. That's what had been taught to the youth, who now and later in life will fail to see that there can be many layers to success. That's the same youth that dominate the web.

The Wii U is the only nintendo console thats ever really dissapointed me.
I never believed the Nintendoom stuff, and still dont.

However I think something went really wrong at nintendo HQ, when they where planning the Wii U.
I hope NX turns things around.