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"There's an additional wrinkle to the story too, albeit one we should treat with caution as it is single-source in nature with a lot of additional speculation on our part. This relates to the idea that the Tegra X1 in the NX development hardware is apparently actively cooled, with audible fan noise. With that in mind, we can't help but wonder whether X1 is the final hardware we'll see in the NX. Could it actually be a placeholder for Tegra X2? It's a new mobile processor Nvidia has in its arsenal and what's surprising about it is how little we actually know about it."

"We also know it has an unusual CPU set-up - two next-gen versions of Nvidia's own Denver CPU cores, paired with an ARM quad-core ARM Cortex-A57 CPU cluster. But what we don't know is the form its GPU component will take because unusually, Nvidia has released no specs on this element whatsoever. Assuming that X2 offers a generational leap over X1 and uses the same Pascal architecture found in its new GPU line, we are potentially looking at power more in line with the current-gen consoles. And if Pascal is in play, it will also use 16nm FinFET production technology compared to X1's 20nm process, meaning it is much more power-efficient. Nintendo could also downclock the chip for further efficiency savings and longer battery life while retaining the lion's share of its processing power."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nintendo-nx-mobile-games-machine-powered-by-nvidia-tegra



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Perhaps someone with more tech knowledge can answer this to me. Is it feasible for Nintendo to create a system with power roughly on par with the XBox One in a shell the size of a 3DS XL, with battery life of more than 3 hours?

Could they do it on a system that about the size of an ipad?

It doesn't seem feasible to me, but I'm no expert.



JWeinCom said:
Perhaps someone with more tech knowledge can answer this to me. Is it feasible for Nintendo to create a system with power roughly on par with the XBox One in a shell the size of a 3DS XL, with battery life of more than 3 hours?

Could they do it on a system that about the size of an ipad?

It doesn't seem feasible to me, but I'm no expert.

Of course. It'd just be too expensive for a handheld and too weak for a 2017 console :P



JWeinCom said:
Perhaps someone with more tech knowledge can answer this to me. Is it feasible for Nintendo to create a system with power roughly on par with the XBox One in a shell the size of a 3DS XL, with battery life of more than 3 hours?

Could they do it on a system that about the size of an ipad?

It doesn't seem feasible to me, but I'm no expert.

It's doable, but how much are Nintendo going to sell it for?

 

Also, the Tegra X1 is a powerful chipset, but its RAM bandwith is far behind the PS4 and XBO. As in, the Tegra X1's bandwith is 25.6 GB/s, versus 170 GB/s for the PS4, and 68 GB/s + 204 GB/s for the XBO (the 68 GB/s is the 8GB of DDR3, while the 204 GB/s is the 32 MB of eSRAM).



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Teeqoz said:
JWeinCom said:
Perhaps someone with more tech knowledge can answer this to me. Is it feasible for Nintendo to create a system with power roughly on par with the XBox One in a shell the size of a 3DS XL, with battery life of more than 3 hours?

Could they do it on a system that about the size of an ipad?

It doesn't seem feasible to me, but I'm no expert.

It's doable, but how much are Nintendo going to sell it for?

 

Also, the Tegra X1 is a powerful chipset, but its RAM bandwith is far behind the PS4 and XBO. As in, the Tegra X1's bandwith is 25.6 GB/s, versus 170 GB/s for the PS4, and 68 GB/s + 204 GB/s for the XBO (the 68 GB/s is the 8GB of DDR3, while the 204 GB/s is the 32 MB of eSRAM).

the real question is, is nintendo going to use the same chip, or a chip based on the tegra chip?



MohammadBadir said:
JWeinCom said:
Perhaps someone with more tech knowledge can answer this to me. Is it feasible for Nintendo to create a system with power roughly on par with the XBox One in a shell the size of a 3DS XL, with battery life of more than 3 hours?

Could they do it on a system that about the size of an ipad?

It doesn't seem feasible to me, but I'm no expert.

Of course. It'd just be too expensive for a handheld and too weak for a 2017 console :P

and this is one of the reasons why I think a hybrid wouldn't be a great idea unless it's only one of mulitple form factors for the NX.  People can talk about things like a docking system and detactable controllers but then you're starting to get to a level where things might get too complicated or too much of a hassle for the average person.



onionberry said:
Teeqoz said:

It's doable, but how much are Nintendo going to sell it for?

 

Also, the Tegra X1 is a powerful chipset, but its RAM bandwith is far behind the PS4 and XBO. As in, the Tegra X1's bandwith is 25.6 GB/s, versus 170 GB/s for the PS4, and 68 GB/s + 204 GB/s for the XBO (the 68 GB/s is the 8GB of DDR3, while the 204 GB/s is the 32 MB of eSRAM).

the real question is, is nintendo going to use the same chip, or a chip based on the tegra chip?

Maybe a downpowered one. If the rumours are to be believed, it seems like the NX is a handheld that can connect to the TV, rather than a hybrid, so they might prioritize an affordable handheld over a decently powerful console. But it sounds a bit sketchy to me. I'm pretty sure Nibtendo said they were gonna have MORE form factors, not fewer.



why is the power the only thing that you care about for people?



Culipechi said:
why is the power the only thing that you care about for people?

I don't care about power, i have a pc for that. But Nintendo should reveal the thing because all the rumors are like bad PR if they don't show why the NX is unique and why the games are unique.