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FunFan on 26 July 2016

About the backwards compatibility. While it is unrealistic to expect WiiU games compatibility, the Tegra is also an ARM chip just like the CPUs in the 3DS. 3DS backwards compatibility could still have a chance if this rumor is truth.



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Pemalite on 26 July 2016
JRPGfan said:

The only worrying part is the Nvidia Tegra news..... I have my doubts about how powerfull that will make the system.

Also the price.... Nintendo arnt always smart when they negociate prices for components (wii u gamepad), and Nvidia dont give nearly as sweet deals as AMD does.

I had hoped nintendo has just gotten AMD to make a ARM+GCN apu for them... them just useing old nvidia tech... Im not sure its the right way to go.

That said I love the concept of a handheld hybrid home console.

You are looking at performance less than a vanilla Xbox One.

So it would be easy to assume that the jump between the Xbox 360 and Xbox One is a larger gap than the jump between the Wii U and NX... Provided they stick with the Tegra X1 or less.

As for price... nVidia can't get any design wins for Tegra, so nVidia is probably almost giving the chips away at this point.

I would assume that it will have roughly a third of the power of the vanilla Xbox One, at most half... Due to a variety of factors. (Like bandwidth, geometry performance etc') And be extremely cheap and energy efficient...
They have lost me as a customer for a 4th console generation in a row if they stick with Tegra though. *Please just be a baseless rumor*



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Culipechi on 26 July 2016

If this is true it will sell a bazillion units in Japan.



Aielyn on 26 July 2016

I'm skeptical. Not that I think they're getting bad information, but that I think they're missing parts of the story and are incorrectly interpreting things.

For instance, why have a handheld that you have to attack extra parts onto? I'll speculate an alternative explanation - the controller can be split into two parts, and either used separately like Wiimotes/Nunchuks, or together as a regular controller. Then, the handheld can be inserted between the two parts to imitate the Wii U's tablet.

Similarly, I could see the "base unit", the "dock station", having its own internals, perhaps comparable in power to the Wii U, and then the handhelds supplementing the power.

The alternative would require one of two things - either NX being inferior to the Wii U in terms of power/graphics, in which case many people probably wouldn't "upgrade", or NX being superior to the Wii U as a handheld, and thus being far too expensive and power-hungry for a handheld.

And in the same way, I bet that "Nintendo recommends a 32 GB cartridge" is actually "Nintendo anticipates that most games will end up using 32 GB cartridges" - many of the lighter games would still be under 8 GB.



Nuvendil on 26 July 2016

I will say that if a hybrid was the goal - I think it's too soon - I did have the thought of detachable controller portions. It makes sense: handhelds are not comfortable for really long sessions and wouls ultimately make for very poor console controllers. Detachable parts could allow for more traditional controller ergonomics for the handheld (think of it as a smaller, more comfortable Gamepad), but they could also allow for a traditional controller all together. Basically you detatch the controller from the screen/core and that goes into the dock while you connect the two controller bits to form a traditonal controller. It is a potentially cool design, I just don't think the tech is there to make it significantly strong enough to work and yes, folks, POWER DOES MATTER.



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DanneSandin on 26 July 2016
Nuvendil said:
This would be a heck of a lot more plausible if not for Pokemon Sun and Moon. That's the big holiday earner for Nintendo and I absolutelu do not see them destroying the hype by announcing that the 3DS successor is coming out mere months after Sun and Moon. Not that it wouls make Pokemon fail but certainly underperform. Also, this implies the whole "full scale experiences on the go" shtick which I find highly unlikely given A) their cheif competitor did that and failed miserably and 2) Nintendo has in the past and continues today to emphasize that handheld and console experiences are and should be different, designed from the ground up for their respective platforms. Disagree with the idea if you want but Nintendo has stuck to that pretty firmly.

Also, Nintendo's limited words have been alludijg to a home console focused device, not a handheld. Also, this is like the tenth or so "highly reliable rumor" we've seen? Most of them conflicting each other?

In short, nothing to see here. Just another NX rumor, move along.

@Bolded: Is that really true, though? There really isn't all that much difference between Mario Kart 7 from Mario Kart Wii (I haven't tried 8, that's why I don't mention it), or from NSMB and NSMBWii, or Mario 3D Land and 3D World. I don't really buy that they're designing games from the ground up for their respective platforms all the time. Some times they take a formula from one platform and transfers it to the other platform. Besides, Nintendo could still make games that's better on the go and better for hours on the couch.



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Stefan.De.Machtige on 26 July 2016
Random_Matt said:
Bet the docking station is a separate purchase.

No doubt. The handheld part will be as cheap as possible. It has to succeed for Nintendo.



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JWeinCom on 26 July 2016
jason1637 said:
JWeinCom sai

Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad feature. It's just not worth going with a cartridge format, a developer unfriendly architecture, and specs that are still 5 years behind its competitors.

I have to disagree with this. The 3DS uses cartidges and its been a successful for Nintendo. I doubt Nintendo is going to compete with Sony and Microsoft with this one but  will pushh portability of the new console as a huge feature and i doubt Sony is planning on making a new handheld.

OP- I think Nintendo is being really smart here with the NX. They want to support their biggest market which is the handheld market but by also making it playable in the living room for those that want a home console. Their hitting two birds with one stone.

The 3DS wasn't functioning as a home console.  Nintendo could push portability all they want, but it's not a feature "core" gamers are interested in.  The reason Sony is not planning on making another console is because they tried something similar with the Vita, and it failed.  People who want a home console will just buy one of the others that are available, and superior.

Why on Earth would you want to hit two birds with one stone?  When has there been an abundance of birds and a shortage of stones?  If you try to kill two birds with one stone, what most likely will happen is that you'll wind up missing both birds.  More likely, you'll hit one, and the other will fly away.



onionberry on 26 July 2016
cuecolez said:
I see this as a perfect fit for using the SCD patent they filled some time ago.

I mean, yes, it is a portable device. Everyone saw this coming.

But the dock can be used as a power booster, having an extra APU that combines with the one on the handheld.
They could sell the dock as the console itself.

exactly 



Lawlight on 26 July 2016

Sounds like this:

http://www.kotowari.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/IMG_0197t.jpg