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Barozi said:

There are several combinations where you couldn't even put two WiiU games on 32GB. And that's completely disregarding the space the OS needs (which on WiiU is already 5GB). Then you're still talking about WiiU games. If anything, file sizes are going to increase. 32GB would be way waaaaay too low.

 

Once you buy a game you're free to download it as many times as you want so really you only need enough space to hold one. Yeah it'd be far more convenient to have all your games downloaded at once, but it's more important that the console is cheap as that affects everyone and you always have the option of bigger memory cards. Also, if the NX is only Wii U level which I think is the only real option, then game sizes shouldn't be much different than they are on Wii U, and most Nintendo games are on the smaller side.



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What do you think the NX handheld will have as a screen? My guess is a 720 with 3:2 or 15:9 (like the 3DS) form factor with 5inch or less, some people believe in 540p 16:9 or so. With that given a X1 is more than you need to drive those small displays.



Someone on Neogaf made an interesting observation. When the first significant leak of this caliber happen for the Wii U, Nintendo released an official statement three days later. If this is legit, the same thing might happen this time as well.



numberwang said:

Thinking about it, the WiiU version of Zelda Bofw may be the definitive version if the NX is just a Tegra X1 based handheld.

 

Price is also key to this, a Tegra X1 handheld could be made for 199$, down to 150$ in two years. Nintendo said, they wanted to go cheap this time.

A Tegra X2 would be more in the 299$ range, but I dont think this would give much better graphics for a small mobile screen. X2 would shine with FHD screens though.

 

Since Nintendo isn't bothering trying to appease third partys, there's not really any point going with powerful hardware and jacking up the cost. I say it'll definitely be Tegra X1 as that's the perfect level of power for them since their development tools should already be familiar and optimized with Wii U level hardware, and it'll make porting those unannounced Wii U games over to NX very easy.



TheSpindler said:
So this was posted back in May

"Participo de um grupo de forum no Japão que solta spoilrs de dragon ball super , mas os brasileiros no Japão acabaram de soltar algo do Nintendo NX que se for verdade pode interessar muitas pessoas.

Holy shit, Portuguese really looks a lot like Spanish. 



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

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Metallox said:
TheSpindler said:
So this was posted back in May

"Participo de um grupo de forum no Japão que solta spoilrs de dragon ball super , mas os brasileiros no Japão acabaram de soltar algo do Nintendo NX que se for verdade pode interessar muitas pessoas.

Holy shit, Portuguese really looks a lot like Spanish. 

???

You only just noticed?



zorg1000 said:
thismeintiel said:

And how did that work out for the Wii U?  You see what's great about strong 3rd party support is it fills out any droughts caused by 1st/2nd party delays or cancellations.  This is why Wii U had so many months go by without a lot of good games.  This only leads to lack of interest from core gamers, which leads to low sales.  No console that lacks strong 3rd party support has gone on to be a huge success.  Even the Wii got thrown quite a few bones, due to the amount of casuals gaming on it.  Unfortunately, a lot of that was shovelware because devs/pubs knew it was mostly casuals on the system, but it was still some form of support.  A lack of support, as well as the competitors putting out more appealing HW, is really what lead to the N64, Gamecube, and Wii U performing so poorly against its rivals.

How did having the combined support of 3DS & Wii U work out for Wii U? I hope you realize how your post makes no sense in response to what I said.

Yes, 3DS and Wii U's libraries weren't shared, though quite a few of the larger indies and Nintendo games got either ports to both systems or their own version.  Still, I was more focusing on your statement that it was more important than getting ports of PS4/XBO games.  Sorry, but that is not true.  It is very imperative that NX gets strong 3rd party support.  Otherwise, it'll become another Wii U.  There just aren't enough die hard Nintendo fans out there to make the NX a success on Nintendo games alone.

Which really makes the HW specs, if the rumor is true, underwhelming.  Sure, they are good for a HH, but this is supposed to be both a HH and a home console.  Something that will probably be close to the Wii U in real world application isn't going to pull people away from the much more powerful PS4/XBO.  If this is Nintendo's answer for next gen, it really needed to be more powerful.  Of course, that would push the price up to a place where people aren't willing to pay, $249+.  As it stands, if this is going to be a success it will definitely need to cheap.  Probably under $180 cheap.  I don't know if Nintendo is going to be able to do that given they couldn't make the Wii U HW profitable day one, even though it was using outdated HW.  We shall see, though.



Wyrdness said:
Metallox said:

Holy shit, Portuguese really looks a lot like Spanish. 

???

You only just noticed?

Yeah. Never bothered to read a large text in Portuguese, honestly, but unlike many other Romance languages, it reads almost the same as in Spanish. 



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

thismeintiel said:
zorg1000 said:

How did having the combined support of 3DS & Wii U work out for Wii U? I hope you realize how your post makes no sense in response to what I said.

Yes, 3DS and Wii U's libraries weren't shared, though quite a few of the larger indies and Nintendo games got either ports to both systems or their own version.  Still, I was more focusing on your statement that it was more important than getting ports of PS4/XBO games.  Sorry, but that is not true.  It is very imperative that NX gets strong 3rd party support.  Otherwise, it'll become another Wii U.  There just aren't enough die hard Nintendo fans out there to make the NX a success on Nintendo games alone.

Which really makes the HW specs, if the rumor is true, underwhelming.  Sure, they are good for a HH, but this is supposed to be both a HH and a home console.  Something that will probably be close to the Wii U in real world application isn't going to pull people away from the much more powerful PS4/XBO.  If this is Nintendo's answer for next gen, it really needed to be more powerful.  Of course, that would push the price up to a place where people aren't willing to pay, $249+.  As it stands, if this is going to be a success it will definitely need to cheap.  Probably under $180 cheap.  I don't know if Nintendo is going to be able to do that given they couldn't make the Wii U HW profitable day one, even though it was using outdated HW.  We shall see, though.

Well your first sentance is very wrong, the vast majority of 3DS/Wii U games are exclusive to one or the other, only a small fraction are shared.

And my statement still stands, for Nintendo it is more important to have a device that can combine the 3DS & Wii U support than to simply get ports of PS/XB games.

You keep saying that 3rd party support is important but are ignoring the fact that when combined 3DS & Wii U have pretty strong 3rd party support, it just happens to be from Japanese, indie & family/kid friendly games rather than shooters/sports/open-world games that make up the bulk of PS4/XBO software sales.

You are right, this device likely wont pull people away from PS4/XBO, because that is not the goal. I believe it was you who earlier talked about how this device is meant to compete with iOS/Android and PS4/XBO at the same time but its actually the opposite. Such a device would be a sort of middle ground between free-to-play casual games and AAA hardcore games, something that allows for experiences that can be enjoyed by both sides, not to steal away customers from those devices.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Somebody on GAF brought up a good point. How is Just Dance supposed to work on this? Lol.