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kitler53 said:
GOWTLOZ said:

I'd like to know what these dudebro audience is. Are they guys who wear caps and drink mountain dew? I don't quite get it as I've never been to the US.

Anyways this audience is definitely more hardcore and have better tastes than Android and iOS only gamers, and are more likely to spend money on buying games rather than downloading free apps and games and pirating paid apps. Nintendo's games probably wouldn't sell to the vast majority of gamers on NX if they are targetting the smartphone audience, who usually play free games and where games don't cost more than $10.

NX might do well but mostly due to the 3DS and Wii U audience buying it, something like 60 million units, which would be a lot, but it will probably sell more than that. But targetting the smartphone audience over console gamers is not a good idea and having Android games is not a system seller as most of them are crap and already available on smartphones that most people have.

white.  born into priviledge.  unsubstantiated sense of self importance.

Is this white privelege really true or is it just media hyperbole? I don't know any better but I see a lot of black celebrities from the US in the media.

Anyways the guys in the pics look exactly like the imagery I had for them in my head xD



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GOWTLOZ said:
kitler53 said:

white.  born into priviledge.  unsubstantiated sense of self importance.

Is this white privelege really true or is it just media hyperbole? I don't know any better but I see a lot of black celebrities from the US in the media.

Anyways the guys in the pics look exactly like the imagery I had for them in my head xD

um...

i definetly believe in the privilege part.  the US is very much capitalism and to be successful you have to buy an expensive college education and to get that you have to have parents with money to pay for the school, probably come from good high school which mean expensive private schools or living in an expensive neighboorhood that actually has a good public school, and with how competitive schools are these days also formulized extra curriculares like sports that aren't cheap either.

basically it is hard to get a high paying job if you parents don't have a high paying job to afford for you the things needed get you there.  there is very little class mobility in america. 

as far as the white thing goes,.. well whites profited off of black slaves.  now refer back to my previous statement to which i said there is very little class mobility in america. 

i don't think you have to be white in america to be privileged but from ages ago whites make up the top earners and blacks make up the bottom earners and things don't really change generation to generation.

 

so i believe in privilege and i believe whites makes up a higher precentage of the privileged class then the popluation break down would suggest a fair society should result in.

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Soundwave said:
GOWTLOZ said:

That is a very useful feature but unless it has phone functionality I don't think the travel apps and portability would be used.

Kids don't care about Nintendo games, they care about any game that looks fun to them and smartphones have plenty of them and kids don't know any better. These games on smartphones are free or far cheaper and have small sizes so they can be easily downloaded. Nintendo will have to rethink the pricing strategy for their own games and also entice smartphone owners to buy their hardware.

I do think it can outsell 3DS in Japan but elsewhere it will not appeal to as many people.

I wouldn't rule out 3G/4G LTE functionality actually. I think the ability to run Android apps is going to be a central feature of NX. 

I think Nintendo has basically chosen with Android/apps if you can't beat 'em ... join 'em and NX will run all the smartphone apps that kids love, and Nintendo can make money off those apps (30% cut of all revenue).

It's also a fail safe I think in case traditional 3rd parties ditch the NX ... fine ... Nintendo will then just make money off the mobile games being downloaded/played on NX. 

Nintendo wouldn't get a cut from apps on the Play Store, and if they have their own store on Android it will have far less support.

They better allow people to download free apks for Android games from third party websites or else they can say goodbye to a lot of Android gamers :P

If third parties don't support NX they will have a hard time with console gamers as well.



zero129 said:
JWeinCom said:

Dude, are you like a 70 year old grandma?  You plug a 10 dollar adapter into your phone, and an hdmi to the TV.  It's not open heart surgery, and probably more intuitive than the rumored NX.

An Apple TV is 100 bucks, and people are going to have the phone anyway, which is 2-300 with a contract.  And it's also a phone.

And, if you have an Android phone (which you should) then it's significantly cheaper, and you can stream wirelessly with a 20 dollar or so Chromecast.  

And this is what's available now.  It's only going to get cheaper and easier.  I'm pretty sure that there are TVs that can wirelessly mirror phones out of the box.  If there are not, I'd be absolutely shocked if they don't exist within 2 years.

HAve you seen the lag when playing with a Chromcast> its pretty bad, something i dont think any real gamer would want to use.

I haven't actually played on a chromecast.  Even if there is lag now though, do you think that will still be a major issue in three years time?



Nuvendil said:
Soundwave said:

If it can sell 15-20 million in Japan, it will get a ton of Japanese support and all Nintendo support concentrated on one platform plus probably Android apps and lots of indie games.

That's enough software support.

The 3DS sold 20 mil in Japan and look at its support from 3rd parties.  Ok at best at most times in Japan.  And many never come west.  And those that do don't sell cause Japanese devs of many of these are so unambitious and/or atrocious at selling their products in the west.  And don't put so much weight on DQXI, it could 1) be the 3DS version that few care about anymore and 2) one game means precisely dick for long term support.

Whats different is that the NX is a Wii U spec handheld device. By its nature the support from Japanese third parties is going to be translate into more ambitious style console games, especially from the likes of Square Enix who gave 3DS a lot of support. As you mentioned I think a fairly big question is how many of those will come to the west. I personally think a lot, due to the home console component and the increased cost of development but we'll see.



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kitler53 said:
GOWTLOZ said:

Is this white privelege really true or is it just media hyperbole? I don't know any better but I see a lot of black celebrities from the US in the media.

Anyways the guys in the pics look exactly like the imagery I had for them in my head xD

um...

i definetly believe in the privilege part.  the US is very much capitalism and to be successful you have to buy an expensive college education and to get that you have to have parents with money to pay for the school, probably come from good high school which mean expensive private schools or living in an expensive neighboorhood that actually has a good public school, and with how competitive schools are these days also formulized extra curriculares like sports that aren't cheap either.

basically it is hard to get a high paying job if you parents don't have a high paying job to afford for you the things needed get you there.  there is very little class mobility in america. 

as far as the white thing goes,.. well whites profited off of black slaves.  now refer back to my previous statement to which i said there is very little class mobility in america. 

i don't think you have to be white in america to be privileged but from ages ago whites make up the top earners and blacks make up the bottom earners and things don't really change generation to generation.

 

so i believe in privilege and i believe whites makes up a higher precentage of the privileged class then the popluation break down would suggest a fair society should result in.

So its a higher income privelege regardless of race and it just happens to be whites generally being more rich due to their history. That's what I could infer from your post.

That's not much different from India, but college tuition here isn't really high, but neither are the incomes that you get after finding a job. Americans have it much better and you don't even realise it, probably even your lower income groups do pretty well compared to Indians. There is no fair society in the world, but American society is much more fair than Americans themselves realise.

There are several divisions between classes and castes in India while Americans suffer from just a few divisions. Be glad that you have a relatively fair society.



sounds more like a way for Nintendo to go out of the console business and only making a Handheld. And using Nvidia tegra doesnt sound impressive either. I hope they bring out an NXTV at least



Einsam_Delphin said:
Barozi said:
I see a huge problem when it comes to the games' sizes and portable gaming.

This thing clearly won't have a 3.5" HDD and a 2.5" HDD sounds unlikely as well. So how the hell are you supposed to fit multiple digital games on that thing when you're on the go? Sounds like cartridges is the only way to go then. Unless you want to pay 350€ for a 512GB sd card.

 

I'm sure it'll have atleast 32GB internal which is enough to hold multiple Wii U games.

There are several combinations where you couldn't even put two WiiU games on 32GB. And that's completely disregarding the space the OS needs (which on WiiU is already 5GB). Then you're still talking about WiiU games. If anything, file sizes are going to increase. 32GB would be way waaaaay too low.



GOWTLOZ said:
kitler53 said:

um...

i definetly believe in the privilege part.  the US is very much capitalism and to be successful you have to buy an expensive college education and to get that you have to have parents with money to pay for the school, probably come from good high school which mean expensive private schools or living in an expensive neighboorhood that actually has a good public school, and with how competitive schools are these days also formulized extra curriculares like sports that aren't cheap either.

basically it is hard to get a high paying job if you parents don't have a high paying job to afford for you the things needed get you there.  there is very little class mobility in america. 

as far as the white thing goes,.. well whites profited off of black slaves.  now refer back to my previous statement to which i said there is very little class mobility in america. 

i don't think you have to be white in america to be privileged but from ages ago whites make up the top earners and blacks make up the bottom earners and things don't really change generation to generation.

 

so i believe in privilege and i believe whites makes up a higher precentage of the privileged class then the popluation break down would suggest a fair society should result in.

So its a higher income privelege regardless of race and it just happens to be whites generally being more rich due to their history. That's what I could infer from your post.

That's not much different from India, but college tuition here isn't really high, but neither are the incomes that you get after finding a job. Americans have it much better and you don't even realise it, probably even your lower income groups do pretty well compared to Indians. There is no fair society in the world, but American society is much more fair than Americans themselves realise.

There are several divisions between classes and castes in India while Americans suffer from just a few divisions. Be glad that you have a relatively fair society.

that is what i believe.

i agree but most people can't (as people say) see past their nose.  they will look at their next door neighboor and see less and be upset about it even if WW they are in the top 20% richest people.  i'm not trying to belittle the poor americans but i've traveled a lot and seen just how much less most other countries have.  it's easy to take that for granted.



My guess is that there are two NX systems, this mobile unit and a PS4-neo like console.