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SpokenTruth said:
Angry that you are being asked to stop being an asshole toward others?

So you feel that the indignity that you perpetuate upon others is irrelevant to your desire to bask in your own self aggrandizement? Glad to know it.

Angry that its getting so ridiculous there are shooting and terrorist attacks every day but the thing we are focusing on here in western "society" is if we should change the stick man and woman on our toilets. Laws are being put into place so that teachers are breaking the law if they call their students "girl, woman or ladies", there is now a  massive graph of gender pro-nouns (that are offensive to the ears) that we have to use correctly in the workplace. Can you imagine if this ammount of PC was introduced so quickly in the 60-70s in the US under the current laws...it wouldn't fit, just like this doesn't fit, just like these LGBT people don't fit no matter how hard they try. Stop trying to fit in forcefully and just go with the flow, people will despise you less. 



 

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John2290 said:
SpokenTruth said:
Angry that you are being asked to stop being an asshole toward others?

So you feel that the indignity that you perpetuate upon others is irrelevant to your desire to bask in your own self aggrandizement? Glad to know it.

Angry that its getting so ridiculous there are shooting and terrorist attacks every day but the thing we are focusing on here in western "society" is if we should change the stick man and woman on our toilets. Laws are being put into place so that teachers are breaking the law if they call their students "girl, woman or ladies", there is now a  massive graph of gender pro-nouns (that are offensive to the ears) that we have to use correctly in the workplace. Can you imagine if this ammount of PC was introduced so quickly in the 60-70s in the US under the current laws...it wouldn't fit, just like this doesn't fit, just like these LGBT people don't fit no matter how hard they try. Stop trying to fit in forcefully and just go with the flow, people will despise you less. 

Why do we try to adjust the flow?  To reduce hate, far and anger.

Shooting and terroist attack are fuled by what?  Hate, fear and anger.

 

Perhaps this is doing more to help than you are giving it credit for. 



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Wright said:

It's not that I'm afraid to speak on this. It's that I didn't understand a word you said, or any point you tried to make.

My point is this.

"It is so damn bizzare I'm starting to wonder if the Soviets won some sort of exagerated, long game and actually managed to take Marxism and its stemming interpretations [Which are so cool btw :D #SocialismFTW] and weaponize it to slowly degrade any meaningful back and fourth from the worlds level headed liberals, conservatives and everything inbetween, to utter trivial nonsense."

Sorry, I should have proof read that post before just leaving it hang to shower.



 

John2290 said:
SpokenTruth said:
Angry that you are being asked to stop being an asshole toward others?

So you feel that the indignity that you perpetuate upon others is irrelevant to your desire to bask in your own self aggrandizement? Glad to know it.

Angry that its getting so ridiculous there are shooting and terrorist attacks every day but the thing we are focusing on here in western "society" is if we should change the stick man and woman on our toilets. Laws are being put into place so that teachers are breaking the law if they call their students "girl, woman or ladies", there is now a graph of gender pro-nouns that we have to use correctly in the workplace. Can you imagine if this ammount of PC was introduced so quickly in the 60-70s in the US under the current laws...it wouldn't fit, just like this doesn't fit, just like these LGBT people don't fit no matter how hard they try. Stop trying to fit in forcefully and just go with the flow, people will despise you less. 

What are you talking about? Where don't LGBT people fit? Personally, I think it makes more sense to blame the people who "despise" groups of people than it does to blame groups of people they despise.

 

Also, lucky for us that we have the capacity to focus on more than one thing at a time. So we can deal with security, and domestic issues at the same time.



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SpokenTruth said:
John2290 said:

Angry that its getting so ridiculous there are shooting and terrorist attacks every day but the thing we are focusing on here in western "society" is if we should change the stick man and woman on our toilets. Laws are being put into place so that teachers are breaking the law if they call their students "girl, woman or ladies", there is now a  massive graph of gender pro-nouns (that are offensive to the ears) that we have to use correctly in the workplace. Can you imagine if this ammount of PC was introduced so quickly in the 60-70s in the US under the current laws...it wouldn't fit, just like this doesn't fit, just like these LGBT people don't fit no matter how hard they try. Stop trying to fit in forcefully and just go with the flow, people will despise you less. 

Why do we try to adjust the flow?  To reduce hate, far and anger.

Shooting and terroist attack are fuled by what?  Hate, fear and anger.

Its causing more fear, anger and most importantly confusion on what issues to tackle and which we should take action on. Sure the LGBT-HD people want there rights but please lets try to keep the muslim anger at western society to a minimum at the moment, lets stop giving targets to people with guns and a reason to use them. Quit with all the trivial LGBT BS ATM keep calm and revisit it when the world is ripping at the seams on every front, including cyber security.

Perhaps this is doing more to help than you are giving it credit for. 



 

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John2290 said:

 

It is so damn bizzare I'm starting to wonder if the Soviets won some sort of exagerated, long game and actually managed to take Marxism and its stemming interpretations [Which are so cool btw :D #SocialismFTW] and weaponize it to slowly degrade any meaningful back and fourth from the worlds level headed liberals, conservatives and everything inbetween, to utter trivial nonsense.

I have no idea how Marxism has anything to do with what you are trying to convey here.



WolfpackN64 said:
John2290 said:

 

It is so damn bizzare I'm starting to wonder if the Soviets won some sort of exagerated, long game and actually managed to take Marxism and its stemming interpretations [Which are so cool btw :D #SocialismFTW] and weaponize it to slowly degrade any meaningful back and fourth from the worlds level headed liberals, conservatives and everything inbetween, to utter trivial nonsense.

I have no idea how Marxism has anything to do with what you are trying to convey here.

I was just thinking the same thing?



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Normchacho said:
John2290 said:

Angry that its getting so ridiculous there are shooting and terrorist attacks every day but the thing we are focusing on here in western "society" is if we should change the stick man and woman on our toilets. Laws are being put into place so that teachers are breaking the law if they call their students "girl, woman or ladies", there is now a graph of gender pro-nouns that we have to use correctly in the workplace. Can you imagine if this ammount of PC was introduced so quickly in the 60-70s in the US under the current laws...it wouldn't fit, just like this doesn't fit, just like these LGBT people don't fit no matter how hard they try. Stop trying to fit in forcefully and just go with the flow, people will despise you less. 

What are you talking about? Where don't LGBT people fit? Personally, I think it makes more sense to blame the people who "despise" groups of people than it does to blame groups of people they despise.

 

Also, lucky for us that we have the capacity to focus on more than one thing at a time. So we can deal with security, and domestic issues at the same time.

Oh really? You think putting up the LGBT/gender meshing crowd as the current face of western society is a good idea to the people who are trying to blow up Europe one piece at a time is a good idea? You think not focusing on the actual peoples welfare (migrants and all) instead of their gender is first on the to do list? Anyway, you are proving my growing suspicion that a soviet cold war mind fuck worked on the west and we are slowly but obendiently sleep walking off a cliff.  I'm aware of how ridiculous that sounds but what sounds more ridiculous is a teacher not being able to call there students "girl, lady, madam or woman" under penalty of law. Trump is more ridiculous. Stutnex is more ridiculous. Turkey's "security measures" are more ridiculous. The Brexit is more ridiculous. And above all, this pronoun list is insane... 



 

John2290 said:
Normchacho said:

What are you talking about? Where don't LGBT people fit? Personally, I think it makes more sense to blame the people who "despise" groups of people than it does to blame groups of people they despise.

 

Also, lucky for us that we have the capacity to focus on more than one thing at a time. So we can deal with security, and domestic issues at the same time.

Oh really? You think putting up the LGBT/gender meshing crowd as the current face of western society is a good idea to the people who are trying to blow up Europe one piece at a time is a good idea? You think not focusing on the actual peoples welfare (migrants and all) instead of their gender is first on the to do list? Anyway, you are proving my growing suspicion that a soviet cold war mind fuck worked on the west and we are slowly but obendiently sleep walking off a cliff.  I'm aware of how ridiculous that sounds but what sounds more ridiculous is a teacher not being able to call there students "girl, lady, madam or woman" under penalty of law. Trump is more ridiculous. Stutnex is more ridiculous. Turkey's "security measures" are more ridiculous. The Brexit is more ridiculous. And above all, this pronoun list is insane... 

As a Marxist, I can tell you socio-economic problems are always at the forefront (as they also were in the Soviet Union). The economic structure is the foundation of society on which culture is built. The economy keeps its culture standing and the culture tries to keep the economic model in place. It seems you care about welfare (which is extremely important as to the material base of people), but you seem to reverse your stance on culture to the dominant culture that keeps in place discrimination and unequal acces to welfare as well as makes LGTB emancipation more complex then it should be.

Don't forget, while economic structures are important, if you don't try to change the culture as well (as Gramsci knew), you'll be running against a brick wall.

That's what I think you're going after, but you seem a bit confused to be honest.



SpokenTruth said:
Areaz32 said:

The thing is you can't just project your own opinion onto some scenario as if it is the truth. He is not an asshole just because he uses different words to conversate.

He's an asshole if the words he uses are done so knowing they are derrogatory, denigrating and abusive.

If I call you something you don't like and I know you don't like it, I'm intentionally being an asshole to you.

And my point is you can't project your own understanding that the words are used in a derrogatory/abusive fashion.

How would i know if you did it to spite me?