Quickly up, ditto down, nothing new in the market here. Looks for more stable value in the coming 2-3 years.
| patronmacabre said: Hypothetical question. Do you think Google would benefit from purchasing the Pokémon franchise from Nintendo? (Assuming that is possible. I don't know how trans-national IP transfer works.) Following that, how much do you think Nintendo is dependent on the Pokémon franchise? |
I dont think Google can purchase the franchise since Nintendo is a Japanese-based company and I'm not sure if IP ownership have the same rules as company ownership when it comes to whether or not international companies can bid for Japanese businesses.
Yes, Nintendo is dependent, but its not the end all for the company. The company still has a variety of IPs, though Mario is the only one that has significance and staying power comparable to Pokemon when it comes to outside of games.
| RolStoppable said: It's only natural that a lot of investors will cash in after a stock has seen such a huge rise in such a short time. That doesn't mean that they won't invest again or that the company is somehow in trouble. They are expecting that other investors will sell as well after this sudden huge spike, so that opens up the opportunity to buy stock at a relatively low price again. Another rise is bound to happen when Nintendo releases their next smartphone games. There's also NX as a factor which can have a much bigger impact on Nintendo's stock in the long term than their smartphone endeavors. |
Stop tainting this perfectly fine Nintendo Doom Thread with your fancy logic!
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| RolStoppable said: It's only natural that a lot of investors will cash in after a stock has seen such a huge rise in such a short time. That doesn't mean that they won't invest again or that the company is somehow in trouble. They are expecting that other investors will sell as well after this sudden huge spike, so that opens up the opportunity to buy stock at a relatively low price again. Another rise is bound to happen when Nintendo releases their next smartphone games. There's also NX as a factor which can have a much bigger impact on Nintendo's stock in the long term than their smartphone endeavors. |
Rol stop being sensible it is not fitting of you. Go back to being sarcastic!
The stock drop today is not because of investor's "cashing in" on a stock that has doubled, its about Nintendo's incompetency (which of course has been their theme this generation). For today, they will not be able to leverage any of Pokemon Go's success. Those are Nintendo's words, not some investor.
Nintendo is now 0 for 2 in their personal investment in mobile. Miitomo was a flop and Pokemon Go, while being the runaway success it is, Nintendo will have little to do with it presently or in the future.
Nintendo did not do itself any favors but not announcing any future revisions to sales or profits which tells me that the supposed halo effect that Pokemon Go was supposed to have is not that extensive. The game has been out for 20 days, that is good enough time to revise 3DS hardware and software up if those were going to ride the wave of Pokemon Go's success.
Update 1:
Hopefully this calls into question the metrics these random websites are using to generate data on gaming apps. There was no way to verify that the game was generating $1.6 million dollar a day in revenue but that amount was cited by so many here.
Also, people also need to brush up on ownership rules (partial ownership, majority/minority stakes, full subsidiaries, etc). Just because company A owns a certain percentage of company B doesnt mean that company B is obligated to give a check to company A.
RolStoppable said:
Am I at least allowed to laugh at the OP for thinking that this is negative Nintendo news? |
the hell? OP only posted the article and quotes from it.
| Train wreck said: The stock drop today is not because of investor's "cashing in" on a stock that has doubled, its about Nintendo's incompetency (which of course has been their theme this generation). For today, they will not be able to leverage any of Pokemon Go's success. Those are Nintendo's words, not some investor. Nintendo is now 0 for 2 in their personal investment in mobile. Miitomo was a flop and Pokemon Go, while being the runaway success it is, Nintendo will have little to do with it presently or in the future. Nintendo did not do itself any favors but not announcing any future revisions to sales or profits which tells me that the supposed halo effect that Pokemon Go was supposed to have is not that extensive. The game has been out for 20 days, that is good enough time to revise 3DS hardware and software up if those were going to ride the wave of Pokemon Go's success. |
It's about some investors' incompetency in realizing the ownership structure of the Pokemon IP, as well as what this project was to begin with. This was The Pokemon Company's project, not Nintendo's directly. Forum goers like us put two and two together pretty quickly, and suprise surprise, people that frequent a video game sales forum can actually have more extensive knowledge about video games and even the financials of them than your average investor. (FYI, that's how "private" investors can compete with "professional" investors; leverage your expertise and knowledge about certain fields and industries that interest you particularly much. You have an advantage there. Most "professional" investors don't know all sectors extremely well. They know many sectors okay-ish. Meanwhile, a private investor can know a few sectors that interest them very well. Compete in those sectors, don't try and beat them in their own game. Beat them in your game).
Nintendo has yet to release any of their own mobile games. They are so far 0/0 in that regard.
Also, first of all, why on earth would Nintendo announce any forevast revisions today, when they are releasing quarterly results this wednesday? Second of all, how do you know that Nintendo hasn't already factored in the umbrella effect of Pokemon Go into their 3DS hardware and software forecasts? They did seem high at the start of the fiscal year (and I stated this when they released it, it's not just me saying it in hindsight).
RolStoppable said:
The OP is well-known for posting Nintendo news for precisely that one reason. The community knows it, the mods know it. |
He loves posting healthy positive news! Only 17% down? :o
Teeqoz said:
It's about some investors' incompetency in realizing the ownership structure of the Pokemon IP, as well as what this project was to begin with. This was The Pokemon Company's project, not Nintendo's directly. Forum goers like us put two and two together pretty quickly, and suprise surprise, people that frequent a video game sales forum can actually have more extensive knowledge about video games and even the financials of them than your average investor. (FYI, that's how "private" investors can compete with "professional" investors; leverage your expertise and knowledge about certain fields and industries that interest you particularly much. You have an advantage there. Most "professional" investors don't know all sectors extremely well. They know many sectors okay-ish. Meanwhile, a private investor can know a few sectors that interest them very well. Compete in those sectors, don't try and beat them in their own game. Beat them in your game).
Nintendo has yet to release any of their own mobile games. They are so far 0/0 in that regard.
Also, first of all, why on earth would Nintendo announce any forevast revisions today, when they are releasing quarterly results this wednesday? Second of all, how do you know that Nintendo hasn't already factored in the umbrella effect of Pokemon Go into their 3DS hardware and software forecasts? They did seem high at the start of the fiscal year (and I stated this when they released it, it's not just me saying it in hindsight). |
Coming out Friday after the markets close to announce this is a mystery in itself as you said, they release their earnings Wednesday. Being a flipflopper (i.e. changing their outlook within 48 hours of saying they wont benefit) will tell everyone that they have no idea how to accurately forcast within their own industry and make it hard for anyone to believe anything they say going forward.
As for private and professional investors, they have the same access to the structure of the Pokemon Company. Both investores are reacting to what Nintendo said Friday, nothing else.
While they are 0/0 on games (I didn't mention anything about games) their mobile ventures (whether direct or slightly indirect) have been suspect, which can easily call into question the games coming out...fall is right around the corner.
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