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vivster on 25 July 2016
Lafiel said:
Aura7541 said:

And here's the breakdown of migrants of Reutlingen since March. Less than 50% are Syrian meaning over half are actually not fleeing war:

.. but there is war in Afghanistan (which also destablised Pakistan a lot) and Iraq !! and in northern Nigeria "Boko Haram" is doing the same shit ISIS is in Syria/Iraq

I'm not sure what is going on in the rest of these countries (afaik Liberia and Somalia are war zones aswell), but reality is that there are lots of wars which don't really have much or any presence in our media, yet ppl from these countries absolutely have the right to flee to a safe country and hope for asylum.

I would love to emigrate to Japan but there is no war in my country, so I can't :(



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Lafiel on 25 July 2016
vivster said:
Lafiel said:

.. but there is war in Afghanistan (which also destablised Pakistan a lot) and Iraq !! and in northern Nigeria "Boko Haram" is doing the same shit ISIS is in Syria/Iraq

I'm not sure what is going on in the rest of these countries (afaik Liberia and Somalia are war zones aswell), but reality is that there are lots of wars which don't really have much or any presence in our media, yet ppl from these countries absolutely have the right to flee to a safe country and hope for asylum.

I would love to emigrate to Japan but there is no war in my country, so I can't :(

according to man-bear-pig, stinson and that ilk we will soon have war here, so you might be in luck after all



vivster on 25 July 2016
Lafiel said:
vivster said:

I would love to emigrate to Japan but there is no war in my country, so I can't :(

according to man-bear-pig, stinson and that ilk we will soon have war here, so you might be in luck after all

That would be swell.



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Fei-Hung on 25 July 2016
MikeRox said:
man-bear-pig said:
What they should have done is created guarded safe zones within Syria and/or made neighbouring Muslim countries accept more refugees where they could've assimilated into society better. Anyone can just throw their passport into the Mediterranean and claim they're a refugee and be accepted into Europe. It's fucked up

This is why I preferred the "heartless" Tory approach of aid funding being provided for aid camps nearer to where the conflict is happening. The solution isn't to just let everybody migrate across the globe to safer countries. It needs a concerted effort to stabilise refugees' homelands. Which yes, can't happen overnight, but is a damn site more preferable to letting the evil selfish pricks take advantage and turn global opinion against refugees.

The Tory aid approach may have had good intentions, after all they sent £600million. What they don't say openly or avoid is what happened to that £600million. 

 

They didn't take any advice from the Muslim charities and other NGOs on the ground and most the aid went into the hands of ISIS. 

 

You can't simply throw money at a problem and hope it goes away. Then you have the second problem with sage zones. When the allies and other countries help, they blow up anything. Within the last month Russia and USA have managed to bomb safe civilian zones and kill over 2-300 innocent civilians. 

 

The easiest thing to do would have been to remove Assad from power (as that would have stopped one of the causes of war there), and then slowly unite Syrians and wipe out ISIS. 



Aura7541 on 25 July 2016
Lafiel said:
Aura7541 said:

And here's the breakdown of migrants of Reutlingen since March. Less than 50% are Syrian meaning over half are actually not fleeing war:

.. but there is war in Afghanistan (which also destablised Pakistan a lot) and Iraq !! and in northern Nigeria "Boko Haram" is doing the same shit ISIS is in Syria/Iraq

I'm not sure what is going on in the rest of these countries (afaik Liberia and Somalia are war zones aswell), but reality is that there are lots of wars which don't really have much or any presence in our media, yet ppl from these countries absolutely have the right to flee to a safe country and hope for asylum.

But how many of those Afghanis and people from other countries actually fleeing from war? We see that the Syrian bomber was denied asylum, so there are even Syrians who are not really fleeing from war, though I bet Syria has the highest refugee to non-refugee ratio. And this is why proper vetting is important as opposed to foolishly opening the floodgates.

We also have the EU Vice President saying that 6 of 10 migrants in Europe aren't fleeing from war.



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barneystinson69 on 25 July 2016
RolStoppable said:
barneystinson69 said:

Good that no one was heart, but I knew there would be more copy cat attacks after the shooting. 

That's why you aren't allowed to make threads about politics anymore. This wasn't a copycat attack, because the motive and method were very different.

I wonder how you think about this specific attack though. You are anti-immigration, you don't want that asylum is granted to refugees. The suicid bomber in this case was denied asylum and about to be deported.

Late at night, not thinking straight (I spent "hurt" wrong...).But anyway he was an asylum seeker nonetheless, so what exactly is the difference?



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Player2 on 25 July 2016
Aura7541 said:

We also have the EU Vice President saying that 6 of 10 migrants in Europe aren't fleeing from war.

There's clearly no war in USA and UK, so we should start with sending those back (In UK's case, as soon as they leave the EU).

In Spain's case, brits are the third largest immigrant group. Retired brits come here to live like rich folks thanks to the pound-euro exchange rate and to take advantage of our healthcare system.



Qwark on 25 July 2016

https://youtu.be/dF9V8POmuxg this is where Germany is headed under Merkel is policies. Anyway change is progression and since we lack the means, will and balls to do aby thing about it. We can only hope the number of terrorism remains as low as possible. But this won't be the last act of terrorism.



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konnichiwa on 25 July 2016
vivster said:
Lafiel said:

.. but there is war in Afghanistan (which also destablised Pakistan a lot) and Iraq !! and in northern Nigeria "Boko Haram" is doing the same shit ISIS is in Syria/Iraq

I'm not sure what is going on in the rest of these countries (afaik Liberia and Somalia are war zones aswell), but reality is that there are lots of wars which don't really have much or any presence in our media, yet ppl from these countries absolutely have the right to flee to a safe country and hope for asylum.

I would love to emigrate to Japan but there is no war in my country, so I can't :(

and even then you probably would be denied anyway. If you really want to go to Japan you were already their. Except if you are to young.