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Ka-pi96 said:

Well France, Spain and the UK aren't 'local area' so...

Which leaves us with the 650,000 in Jordan (this is not counting unregistered of course), 1.2 million in Lebanon, 2.7 million in Turkey, 420,000 in Saudi Arabia, 239,000 in Iraq and 0 in Israel. You said Lebanon is doing well. How many should the other countries take?



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Vinther1991 said:
Hiku said:

I think a common suggestion is that neighbouring countries should be more open to taking refugees in. Instead they have extremely long waiting processes like 15 years in some cases. So it falls on other European countries to take all of them instead.

Lebanon: citizens: 4.5 million - Syrian refugees in Lebanon: 1.2 million (registered)!

Jordan: Citizens: 9.7 million - Syrian refugees: 650,000 (registered)

Turkey: Citizens: 79 million - Syrian refugees: 2.7 million (registered)

Saudi Arabia: Citizens: 32 million - Syrian refugees: 0 (registered)

Iran: Citizens: 80 million - Syrian refugees: 0 (registered)

The other gulf states have done little to help. UAE, Qatar, and all those wealthy gulf countries have also taken in 0 refugees. They're far more similar culturally than Europeans are to these people.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

barneystinson69 said:
Vinther1991 said:

Lebanon: citizens: 4.5 million - Syrian refugees in Lebanon: 1.2 million (registered)!

Jordan: Citizens: 9.7 million - Syrian refugees: 650,000 (registered)

Turkey: Citizens: 79 million - Syrian refugees: 2.7 million (registered)

Saudi Arabia: Citizens: 32 million - Syrian refugees: 0 (registered)

Iran: Citizens: 80 million - Syrian refugees: 0 (registered)

The other gulf states have done little to help. UAE, Qatar, and all those wealthy gulf countries have also taken in 0 refugees. They're far more similar culturally than Europeans are to these people.

Yes, that's surprisingly strange:

http://www.euronews.com/2015/09/30/why-aren-t-rich-gulf-states-welcoming-syrian-refugeesor-are-they

They argue that the refugees doesn't want to go there.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Vinther1991 said:

Which leaves us with the 650,000 in Jordan (this is not counting unregistered of course), 1.2 million in Lebanon, 2.7 million in Turkey, 420,000 in Saudi Arabia, 239,000 in Iraq and 0 in Israel. You said Lebanon is doing well. How many should the other countries take?

Well Lebanon have taken about a 4th of their population, that's doing insanely well. Ok to be fair the Jordan and Turkey numbers aren't bad by any means, but when compared to Lebanon and relative to their population they are still way behind.

I would say Jordan is doing very well too. Since they have taken pretty much the same amount of Iraqian refugees as well. Turkey and Saudi Arabia should definitely do more. Egypt and Iran probably too. Iraq can't be considered safe though. Oman and U.A.E is about as far away from Syria as Hungary is, so don't know how fair it is to blame them :p Israel are just being assholes :p



barneystinson69 said:
Vinther1991 said:

Lebanon: citizens: 4.5 million - Syrian refugees in Lebanon: 1.2 million (registered)!

Jordan: Citizens: 9.7 million - Syrian refugees: 650,000 (registered)

Turkey: Citizens: 79 million - Syrian refugees: 2.7 million (registered)

Saudi Arabia: Citizens: 32 million - Syrian refugees: 0 (registered)

Iran: Citizens: 80 million - Syrian refugees: 0 (registered)

The other gulf states have done little to help. UAE, Qatar, and all those wealthy gulf countries have also taken in 0 refugees. They're far more similar culturally than Europeans are to these people.

You didn't read my other post apparently

Saudi Arabia? Citizens: 30 million, Refugees: 420,000  http://gulfmigration.eu/media/pubs/exno/GLMM_EN_2015_11.pdf

Iran? N/A (but probably less than 1000)

U.A.E? Citizens: 9.2 million, Refugees: 242,000 http://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/government/uae-home-to-242000-syrians

 

You are right about Iran, but Saudi Arabia has clearly taken more than 0 refugees ;)

Edit: You are partially right, the Syrian refugees in Saudi Arabia and U.A.E aren't registered as refugees, but more as foreign workers. Nonetheless I agree the gulf states haven't done enough.



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It was not at random, the woman and him had something or he believed he did, she not want him and he killed her the two other person who probably were just in the way were random.






I think the refugees are mostly genuinely fleeing from possible death in what is a completely de-stabilised region of the world but they are generally not a tolerant people. Christians and atheists are the infidel and they do not accept equal rights for women or homosexuals. Many are offended by our practices and not being muslim. That is just the way it is. So they seek safety but are also offended and not genuinely grateful. What annoys me most is the politically correct of Europe criticize those people in Europe who don't want to take refugees but the very people they are giving refugee status too are extremely politically non-correct.

I believe in equal rights for women and I believe in animal welfare. I'm an atheist. As you can imagine I'm none too keen on the views of islam with ritual slaughter for animals, horrific treatment of women and know that people who lack religion like myself are often persecuted and killed in islamic countries. 40% of the islamic population of the UK want sharia law!

I'm very happy to live in a multi-cultural country and have no problems with people of different ethnicity but its difficult to tolerate people who have little tolerance themselves due to their belief in a very dark religion which expresses many dark viewpoints.

We are seeing at the moment that one of the largest sectarian democracies with a majority muslim population is moving towards a dictatorship in Turkey. There is a lot of anarchy in islam.



man-bear-pig said:
Merkels refugee policy was one of the biggest fuck ups of all time

Depends on perspective. If the point of taking in millions of refugee's was on a humanitarian basis, then nothing much has changed. 

It was always going to come at a cost. Both financially and in terms if social cohesion.



Peh said:
barneystinson69 said:

Saudi Arabia: Citizens: 32 million - Syrian refugees: 0 (registered)

Iran: Citizens: 80 million - Syrian refugees: 0 (registered)

The other gulf states have done little to help. UAE, Qatar, and all those wealthy gulf countries have also taken in 0 refugees. They're far more similar culturally than Europeans are to these people.

Yes, that's surprisingly strange:

http://www.euronews.com/2015/09/30/why-aren-t-rich-gulf-states-welcoming-syrian-refugeesor-are-they

They argue that the refugees doesn't want to go there.

Thats a rediculous excuse. Refugees by international law can't choose their country of asylum. In that case, they're just economic migrants, and aren't in need of help.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

spurgeonryan said:
Ka-pi96 said:
He was arrested? How disappointing. Don't think Germany has a death penalty either so he'll be walking free in 20 or so years.

Good, instead of just killing himself hopefully he has 20 miserable years of life.

German prison? HA! He'll be pampered and probably be out in less than 1/2 that time.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).