SuperNova said:
Dude, no core EU-country has the death penalty. It's considered inhuman and cruel according to official EU policy. |
It's considered unreasonable. The legal system in EU is not based around revenge, but rehabilitation and desire for safety.
Hiku said:
I think a common suggestion is that neighbouring countries should be more open to taking refugees in. Instead they have extremely long waiting processes like 15 years in some cases. So it falls on other European countries to take most of them instead. |
Well, that's obvious. But they just don't want to even if they had to like Poland. Poland argues that, they don't take them in, because they are a homogeneous country. Well, they are right. But why sign an agreement and don't comply with it? Take all the money from the EU to build up your country, get the advantages in economy and then say no, because they don't want to.
And the EU goes like, OK.
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Vinther1991 said:
It's considered unreasonable. The legal system in EU is not based around revenge, but rehabilitation and desire for safety. |
Absolutely correct. I was just semi quoting from the official EU policy because it had been in the news recently. Being inhuman and cruel is the official reason the EU is opposed to he death penalty.
| Hiku said: I think a common suggestion is that neighbouring countries should be more open to taking refugees in. Instead they have extremely long waiting processes like 15 years in some cases. So it falls on other European countries to take all of them instead. |
Lebanon: citizens: 4.5 million - Syrian refugees in Lebanon: 1.2 million (registered)!
Jordan: Citizens: 9.7 million - Syrian refugees: 650,000 (registered)
Turkey: Citizens: 79 million - Syrian refugees: 2.7 million (registered)
Ka-pi96 said:
Some people don't deserve rehabilitation and the world is safer without them though. Nothing about revenge in that. |
The point I was making is that deserve has nothing to do with it. Whether they are behind bars or dead, they are not a threat anymore.
Ka-pi96 said:
Since when was accepting middle eastern refugees part of the EU? The EU is about free trade and free movement for European citizens, not foreigners. |
What you are talking about is the EEC. The EU was created in 1993 and grew with time and more guidlines were made which also take care of refugees. There is also no destinction from what part of the globe we take in refugees.
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Ka-pi96 said:
Saudi Arabia? Citizens: 30 million, Refugees: 420,000 Iran? N/A Israel( Egypt? Citizens: 91 million Refugees: 120,000 Azerbaijan? N/A Oman? N/A U.A.E? Citizens: 9.2 million, Refugees: 242,000 |
Answers in bold ^^ Iran, Azerbaijan and Oman are not "local area", but Iran supports refugee camps in other countries a lot financially. Israel is just being Israel.
Edit: But Saudi Arabia and U.A.E certainly have a lot. Egypt - not so much, but that's not local area either, and compared to the 12,000 syrian refugees in France, it's still a pretty huge part.
vivster said:
So how would you have prevented it? Build a wall and make the Mexicans pay for it? |
Simply by applying the German and European law to protect and strictly control the borders. The german constitution Art 16a (2) forbids to let in any illegal immigrants. Even refugees from Syria are not allowed to come in if they come through secure European states. Around Germany there are only secure states, so all refugees, including the Syrians, according tho the german constitution have no right to be in Germany and no right to register as refugees in Germany.
But Merkel does not care and nobody is powerful enough to enforce the constitutional law. Another problem is that all refugees in Germany will get a lot of money from the German state, much more than they would ever be able to earn in their home countries. This has to stop or Germany will soon become an islamistic country with Iraq-like terror on a daily basis.
If he wasn't a refugee then I doubt this would be a big news story...
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Ka-pi96 said:
How are Iran and Azerbaijan not local area? They are both closer to Syria/Iraq than the U.A.E, which Oman is right next to. And I kind of expected Israel not to take any hence the Kinda shows that they aren't pulling their weight though. Fair play to Lebanon they're doing well, everywhere else round there, not so much. |
I wouldn't consider U.A.E local area either. Sorry, didn't make that clear.
You don't think the others are doing well? Compared to 12,000 in France, 8,000 in Spain, 9,500 in UK???
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