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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Will Ash finally win a Pokemon League? *UPDATED OP: Finals over, the conclusion is...!!!

 

Do you think this was a good outcome?

Yes 13 14.44%
 
No 77 85.56%
 
Total:90
Einsam_Delphin said:
Angelus said:

Well, reading between the lines, your OT is about Ash's lacking throughout the long history of the show, and I include this lacking as the chief reason for my dislike of the show, and my confusion for why one would still be interested in following such a lacking character's journey throughout the Pokemon world, when there are numerous ways of taking in Pokemon related media without having to put up with Ash. Thus, again, I feel my post was completely fair and on topic. And no, you don't have to justify to me what you like, or why you like it, I was just curious, that's all.

 

There's no way to spin it buddy. Your dislike of the show is and your confusion to why people like it is completely irrelevant to determining if Ash will win the Kalos League.

Wasn't spinning anything. Your own OT highlights that Ash has pretty much been at a stand still since the show started. What's wrong with questioning why people would be interested in following that "progress" for this long? Clearly, as stated throughout the thread, fans of the show are thrilled to see him finally not suck and actually be competent, maybe enough so to win it all. So if that's true, wouldn't it stand to reason that if they're so excited about his competence and strategic decisions now, that watching the show year after year without said ability must have been rather frustrating, if not downright exhausting? What's fun about watching somebody suck for 20 years?



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Isn't Ash Orange Islands Champion, or it doesn't count?



Einsam_Delphin said:
Peh said:

Some posts don't need an answer. And this is one of them.
Pokemon has a progressing story, where as Spongebob and the Simpsons don't. Just sayin'.

 

Then don't make a post asking a question you don't want answered to begin with?

Progressing story =/= characters must age, if that's what you're trying to get at.

Ever heard of rhetorical questions? I suppose not.

Also, that's not what I am sayin'. There are better examples like One Piece or...Bleach.. that's what I sayin'. Just sayin'.



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tivec said:
Isn't Ash Orange Islands Champion, or it doesn't count?

doesn't count, it's not canon :v



After he gave up his Charizard not once but twice I was fully convinced that he would never win a league lol.



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Angelus said:

What's wrong with questioning why people would be interested in following that "progress" for this long?

 

For the last time, it is off topic. If you want to talk about that, make a new thread. This is my final response to you on the matter.

 

tivec said:
Isn't Ash Orange Islands Champion, or it doesn't count?

 

Orange Islands isn't a real league in the games so I say doesn't count, only the major region leagues do.

 

Peh said:

Ever heard of rhetorical questions? I suppose not.

Also, that's not what I am sayin'. There are better examples like One Piece or...Bleach.. that's what I sayin'. Just sayin'.

 

If you really think I haven't heard of that then you're even worse than Ash during BW. Also, so you expect people to be able to read your mind then, since there was no indication your question was rhetorical. I think that's even sillier than asking questions you don't want answered.

Uh... okay? As long as you got my point then I don't really care if there were better examples. Seems like you're just trying to be difficult to be difficult so this will also be my last response to you on the matter.



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Ashe is too stupid to win a league, he just catch trash pokemons.

You haven't watched Pokemon in a while if you're saying he catches Pokemon that are trash. In Kalos alone, he has Talonflame, Noivern, Goodra, Greninja (with a synchro power-up called Ash-Greninja), who almost defeated Diantha's Mega Garvdevoir and could potentially defeat Alain's Mega Charizard X, and Hawlucha to go along with his still powerful Pikachu, who has, up to this point, defeated a Mega Lucario, Latios, and Regice. Ash's Pokemon for BW and DP aren't too shabby either, which include Infernape, Torterra, Staraptor, Gliscor, Pignite, Boldore, and Krookodile.

though if it's your opinion, that's fine I guess. I don't know your opinion on these Pokemon.



Luke888 said:
Harkins1721 said:

God I hope he wins. XY has been so freaking good. I cannot believe how much fanboying ive done with this series. Sinnoh killed me a little. It went on for so long and the last part of it was so damn good. And it gave me hope for BW and it started off great and turned to poop. XY has been amazing since Episode 1.

 

And the music is so good!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8E-zxvtSTQ

I haven't followed the XY series because I can't stand Ash after BW but I really enjoyed the Japanese opening called Mega Volt!

Oh trust me you werent alone. BW started off great and just went to shit. And overall was just terrible imo. I was very cautious of XY but I watched the first episode and it got me hooked. Each gym fight has been spectacular. 



it's all because of that damn Pikachu. he wont F'n evolve. I don't know why Ash is still clinging on to him, he is nothing but dead weight.

who in the right mind will give up a Charizard..over a freakin Pikachu..



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Harkins1721 said:
Luke888 said:

I haven't followed the XY series because I can't stand Ash after BW but I really enjoyed the Japanese opening called Mega Volt!

Oh trust me you werent alone. BW started off great and just went to shit. And overall was just terrible imo. I was very cautious of XY but I watched the first episode and it got me hooked. Each gym fight has been spectacular. 

BW was a dumpster fire to the point that I stopped watching it after Ash got his last badge. His battles against Elesa and Roxie were really bad. The gym battles in XY are loads better because Ash combines strategy and inventiveness to win. Not to mention, the choreography has been really good, too.

@OP. Ash won't win the Kalos League not because he will lose to Alain, but because Team Flare will interrupt their battle. The XY&Z OP appears to hint at Ash and Alain facing off again and Ash will beat Alain, "winning" the Kalos League though it won't be an official league battle. At least, that's what I think will happen.