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Lmao this is insane, though I'm also scared of the aftermath, still I'm gona keep my stock as long as it keeps rising, my revenue at the moment would be about 1500€



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Trentonater said:
Stock soaring off of a game they had very little to do with. It wont last once the traders realize nintendo isn't going full mobile.

Game mostly was developed by Niantic, but Nintendo started whole project, they invest directly in game and through Pokemon Company, so they have around 30% of profit from game, also it well know fact that Nintendo basically owns Pokemon IP. Traders are very aware of all those things.



Nuvendil said:
Soundwave said:

Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem are coming, I'm guessing Mario, Mario Kart, and Zelda are not far off either. 

Nintendo will still make dedicated/deeper game experiences for NX, but there's no doubt in my mind now that they will unleash their full franchise catalog on mobile, just in ways that make sense for mobile (IE: You'll get a touch based Zelda adventure with smaller dungeons, smaller burst play sessions ala the DS Zeldas, rather than a OoT port or something). 

Mobile is something Nintendo is going to take dead serious now, and really who can stop them? Super Cell? They have like one franchise. Nintendo has so much they could exploit on mobile. Even things like Nintendogs ... there's no reason that couldn't be brought back on mobile. Hell, they could even make new IP on mobile too. 

I highly doubt you'll see what you are envisioning.  They will almost certainly follow the GO model from here on:  very distinct experiences from their handhelds that are specifically made for mobile and that don't overlap.  It's not just going to be them shoving every IP on mobile, only ones that can work as GO has in some fashion.  I really doubt we'll see Mario  Kart, Smash, F-Zero, or other franchises that demand by design high-precision inputs cause that still sucks on mobile.  We will see things like Nintendogs, Brain Age, etc I think as support titles.    

Also, as for Zelda...I could see a game that's just dungeons perhaps, where you progress from one to the next etc.  Main issue I could see is that mobile needs a LONG running progression loop to find success normally, Zelda usually has a hard limit to that and it would be tricky to gain the length needed without making it super grind-happy.   

You'll see Mario Kart, there's too much money on the table, racing games is actually a big genre on mobile. Real Racing 3 has like 300 million downloads, Angry Birds Go 100+ million downloads. 

Zelda will happen too, they can come up with different ways to make it work on mobile. Nintendo's design prowess is light years beyond other mobile developers, they know how to make this stuff work well (see also: Wii and DS). 



The price to earnings ratio on Nintendo's stock is massive. It's the 13th highest company on either of the Japanese stock exchanges, and all of the top 12's P/E ratios are 7 to 20. Nintendo's is sitting at 231! That might not mean anything in the long run, but it could signal that investors are expecting a massive, massive increase in revenue and profits, which makes me think most of them are expecting the success of Pokemon Go to cause a shift in the way the company operates, so that it focuses nearly all of its efforts on mobile rather than pursuing the hybrid strategy that seems to be working now. It will be interesting to see where this stock will go, since the rise doesn't seem to be petering out as of yet, even though it really should have. It seems that investors are banking on Nintendo to produce plenty of Pokemon Go-style successes in the future (which, who knows, maybe they will). 

 

The funny thing is about this is that it looks like the Sony stock is performing badly, which is quite the opposite, it's at the highest it's been in nearly a decade. It's just that Nintendo's rise is one of the most incredible sky-rockets of stock prices the markets have seen (literally the highest, in terms of the Japanese markets). 



This is good and all, especially for Nintendo, I just hope they don't loose interest in their hardware and console software markets. I hope this acts as a huge (and lucrative) PR campaign for Nintendo, driving sales of their HW and SW.

Pokémon GO has really been an impressive success, one that probably caught Nintendo off guard. I think THIS has opened their eyes to what the mobile scene could mean for them. Miitomo had a successful launch, but lost momentum, Pokémon GO however...



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Soundwave said:
Nuvendil said:

I highly doubt you'll see what you are envisioning.  They will almost certainly follow the GO model from here on:  very distinct experiences from their handhelds that are specifically made for mobile and that don't overlap.  It's not just going to be them shoving every IP on mobile, only ones that can work as GO has in some fashion.  I really doubt we'll see Mario  Kart, Smash, F-Zero, or other franchises that demand by design high-precision inputs cause that still sucks on mobile.  We will see things like Nintendogs, Brain Age, etc I think as support titles.    

Also, as for Zelda...I could see a game that's just dungeons perhaps, where you progress from one to the next etc.  Main issue I could see is that mobile needs a LONG running progression loop to find success normally, Zelda usually has a hard limit to that and it would be tricky to gain the length needed without making it super grind-happy.   

You'll see Mario Kart, there's too much money on the table, racing games is actually a big genre on mobile. Real Racing 3 has like 300 million downloads, Angry Birds Go 100+ million downloads. 

Zelda will happen too, they can come up with different ways to make it work on mobile. Nintendo's design prowess is light years beyond other mobile developers, they know how to make this stuff work well (see also: Wii and DS). 

Well, downloads is a poor metric as other mobile devs will tell you.  It's the grossing figure that matters.  Only 1 racing game is in the top 25 grossing at number 23 I believe.  The next one is all the way down at 65.  Also, Nintendo clearly wants mobile ventures to stand as their own distinct entity, a third pillar if you will.  I struggle to see how that will be doable with MK.  Also, Nintendo's design standards are part of their trademark polish.  While they will occassionally try something hugely risky that could backfire badly (Star Fox Zero), they normally don't tempt fate.  So I could see them avoiding MK mobile for that reason as well, just cause they feel the chances of it turning out poor are way too high.



Soundwave said:
Nuvendil said:

I highly doubt you'll see what you are envisioning.  They will almost certainly follow the GO model from here on:  very distinct experiences from their handhelds that are specifically made for mobile and that don't overlap.  It's not just going to be them shoving every IP on mobile, only ones that can work as GO has in some fashion.  I really doubt we'll see Mario  Kart, Smash, F-Zero, or other franchises that demand by design high-precision inputs cause that still sucks on mobile.  We will see things like Nintendogs, Brain Age, etc I think as support titles.    

Also, as for Zelda...I could see a game that's just dungeons perhaps, where you progress from one to the next etc.  Main issue I could see is that mobile needs a LONG running progression loop to find success normally, Zelda usually has a hard limit to that and it would be tricky to gain the length needed without making it super grind-happy.   

You'll see Mario Kart, there's too much money on the table, racing games is actually a big genre on mobile. Real Racing 3 has like 300 million downloads, Angry Birds Go 100+ million downloads. 

Zelda will happen too, they can come up with different ways to make it work on mobile. Nintendo's design prowess is light years beyond other mobile developers, they know how to make this stuff work well (see also: Wii and DS). 

I higly doubt about Mario Kart on mobiles, same goes for Zelda, they will make some kind spinoffs and built up games from ground for mobiles but only games for franchises that will suit most, Pokemon suit great on mobile, Animal Crossing also, same could say for Fire Amblem, Nintendo Dogs and Cats...but you will hardly see games like Zelda, Smash Bros, Splatoon, Mario Kart, Metroid, Pikmin, Xenoblade, most of platformers...on mobile platforms, we could see some totally different spin offs of those games that are very different from those games on consoles, but you will hardy see core of those games an experience that those games gave on mobile devices.



This is what's wrong with the stock market...

I think Nintendo deserve their success, but overinflation of stock prices is what's hurting our economy today.

I hope one day the stock market completely disappear.



good job nintendo



I've never seen such a massive explosion in Popularity like Pokemon Go, absolutely INSANE. I just hope it doesn't drop off as quickly as it gained momentum.

I also wish they'd make a pokemon mobile game I can play, I.E a game for lazy bums.