The irony with modern millenials being that they want diversity of skin colour or gender but not diversity of ideas or opinion.
They've got it all backwards.
This kind of thing is just the most obscene nonsense.
The world isn't perfectly equal in every place and time. Everyone knows this. It's one of the most obvious facts that you can notice almost everywhere and in every subject, company, or past-time.
Why on earth do you think bullying a company into hiring people deliberately based on their race or sex is a good solution? It's a ridiculous solution. It completely undermines meritocracy. It descriminates against people of one group in favour of another. It leads to hiring people who aren't necessarily up to the job. It's terrible at nearly every stage.
If they want to help with this sort of problem, they should be spending their money helping with shitty schooling in black neighborhoods and investing to try and bring the single parenthood rates down with black americans. That's one of the main drivers of poverty. Waiting til people are adults and these inequalities have already arisen is too late. You've gotta go back to the source.
When 38 % of your employees in the US are Asian, I'm pretty sure a company doesn't have a problem with not having enough diversity. It seems that there's no racism at play here, and diversity isn't faring too badly either. To me, it seems like everything's just fine. And for an IT company, Facebook has an astounding amount of female employees too.
There are many problems with Facebook, but according to these numbers, lack of diversity most certainly isn't one of them. If there's something I'm overlooking, please enlighten me, but to me, the numbers seem really good for diversity.
| Zkuq said: When 38 % of your employees in the US are Asian, I'm pretty sure a company doesn't have a problem with not having enough diversity. It seems that there's no racism at play here, and diversity isn't faring too badly either. To me, it seems like everything's just fine. And for an IT company, Facebook has an astounding amount of female employees too. There are many problems with Facebook, but according to these numbers, lack of diversity most certainly isn't one of them. If there's something I'm overlooking, please enlighten me, but to me, the numbers seem really good for diversity. |
“Culture fit” is a way to move the goalpost when the applicant checks all the boxes on paper. It gives these companies an out. #FBNoExcuses
— James Carter (@jamescarterhr) July 15, 2016
If you can't get the candidates to come to you, then go to them. Build offices where Black and Latinx candidates want to live.#FBNoExcuses
— EricaJoy (@EricaJoy) July 15, 2016
Sr Tech Exec: Brian, how do I hire more Blacks at the company?
— Brian (@brianaraujoxD) July 15, 2016
Me: Say yes? Give them the job? Actually read their resume? #FBNoExcuses
| Nuvendil said: Numerical diversity is not a metric of true equality. It is better to have a business wildly lopsided towards one group but all treated equally than one with equal division that is generated through artificially padding the count through selective discrimination and favoritism in the hiring and managing process. The best applicants should be hired, the best employees should be promoted, and then the diversity chips should be allowed to fall where they may. That is true equality. |
Well said. I also agree with LurkerJ that the problem is in the education.
The problem is equality in attaining the same skillsets. People should have an equal opportunity to receive good education. But this is more of an economic/class issue than a diversity one.
so they are basically saying - "Our research shows that Facebook is mostly employing a lot of the same people as last year." How is that a bad thing? Wouldnt that mean that they have found some great people who were able to hold their position at the company? Wouldnt that mean that the company is currently in good standings? But no, Facebook is obviously racially flawed and they need to fire about 50% of their white staff in order to hire a more racially diverse staff. Its stupid. These people obviously have their jobs for a reason.
Teeqoz said:
Well said. I also agree with LurkerJ that the problem is in the education. The problem is equality in attaining the same skillsets. People should have an equal opportunity to receive good education. But this is more of an economic/class issue than a diversity one. |
For race its mostly random chance and circumstances outside companies' control, yes. With women, another posibility is maybe women in general have a lower number per capita who WANT to work in the tech industry? Men and Women are equal, but not the same. The fact that sometimes these disparities are just part of that needs to be accepted.
Also, the video with that female lecturer linked in the first page is cool and a lot of her videos are quite good and level headed it seems. Too bad people who are level headed like that aren't signal boosted like these shock-jock sensationalists and social media rabble-rousers are.
Nuvendil said:
For race its mostly random chance and circumstances outside companies' control, yes. With women, another posibility is maybe women in general have a lower number per capita who WANT to work in the tech industry? Men and Women are equal, but not the same. |
She touches on that point too.
And yes, she is amazing. Too bad she doesn't get any publicity anywhere, while pseudo-feminists and victimization addicts get all the spot-light.
No business should have to put up with this. They should be able to hire whomever they want. It's ther business, not the governments. If they dont hire someone because of race or gender that is better than someone they do hire, it is their loss but also their choice
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