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Attack in Nice, France during Bastille Day. 78 killed, hundreds wounded.

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Lol so it was Muslims again, why I am not surprised.



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teigaga said:
think-man said:
Its time to be be cut
Throat and started exporting these people. They have proved they cannot integrate.

You think the best way to deter extremism is to ostracise a whole population on basis of their faith or ethnicity despite less than 0.0001% of them actually committing terror crimes? That would multiply the terror threat 10x fold and it's also not practical.

Indeed makes me wonder how many people say this than turn around and take a different stance when a police shooting takes place.



Wyrdness said:
teigaga said:

You think the best way to deter extremism is to ostracise a whole population on basis of their faith or ethnicity despite less than 0.0001% of them actually committing terror crimes? That would multiply the terror threat 10x fold and it's also not practical.

Indeed makes me wonder how many people say this than turn around and take a different stance when a police shooting takes place.

just playing devil's advocate here, but shouldn't we have a higher standard for police officers than we do for random civilians? you know, the whole 'to protect and serve' thing...

also, the police shooting thing seems to be a very US centric issue, there are no such issues in Europe with the police escalation to deadly force at the slightest perceived infraction.



setsunatenshi said:
Wyrdness said:

Indeed makes me wonder how many people say this than turn around and take a different stance when a police shooting takes place.

just playing devil's advocate here, but shouldn't we have a higher standard for police officers than we do for random civilians? you know, the whole 'to protect and serve' thing...

also, the police shooting thing seems to be a very US centric issue, there are no such issues in Europe with the police escalation to deadly force at the slightest perceived infraction.

Well to be fair European police don't have to worry that someone they're talking to could be carrying a gun all the time...



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Ka-pi96 said:
setsunatenshi said:

just playing devil's advocate here, but shouldn't we have a higher standard for police officers than we do for random civilians? you know, the whole 'to protect and serve' thing...

also, the police shooting thing seems to be a very US centric issue, there are no such issues in Europe with the police escalation to deadly force at the slightest perceived infraction.

Well to be fair European police don't have to worry that someone they're talking to could be carrying a gun all the time...

absolutely 100% agree on that. it's almost as if arming every single person in the entire country will not make the population more safe somehow...



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Soundwave said:
Acevil said:

Seriously both the rightist and leftist solution are dumbs. 

Right solution is war, which is how this happened in the first place, if it wasn't for the right's greed and wanting to control and police every little fun state on the planet, maybe non of this would have happened. Left solution is that everyone is special snowflake, and that screening should not happen to people coming into the country, because everyone is a snowflake. 

Both sides hold blame, don't act rightous.

War with what? What is there is even left in the Middle East to bomb? Iraq has already been bombed back into the stone age, so has Syria. 

And fine, lets have war, so shouldn't all these right wing tough guys be the first to volunteer to go over there and fight? 

There's a word for people who adovocate for war but are too scared to actually do the fighting -- it's called a chickenhawk. 

Hint: Most of these terrorist do not come from either Syria or Iraq. They are mostly born in the west to their immigrant parents from either North Africa or Pakistan. And the reason they turn out the way they do is because Europe has been for the last 60 years a beaon of left wing pussified, limp wristed policies which would rather see people not be branded as racist by far left SWJ sub human cunts than actually stop rampant migrant crime, terrorisam and refusal to assimilation.

So the real war is in our own countries, first and foremost against militant muslims but also against the treacherous, disgusting self loathing limp wristed, pussified far left idiots who enable these militants and protect them from any criticism or initiative by branding everyone racist.



Barkley said:
bonzobanana said:

Well that's a lot better than being an athiest in a muslim country which often results in death, torture, inprisonment, persecution or even put in mental asylums.

There are lots of reasons that cause people to be religious anyway and stupidity is only one of them. The most common is the culture you are brought up in. I broke away from my christian upbringing when I was 13 approx when I realised it was complete nonsense and had no connection with reality but in my environment it was completely safe to do so which is not the case in many parts of the world where to be safe you still have to pretend to believe.

"What you believe in is complete nonesense actually." I have no desire to take part in religious discussion online, but I also do not want to be mocked for my beliefs unprovoked. As for your first statement, however atrocious an offence is does not make a much lighter offence any better. Atheists want religious people to "Keep it to themselves." Well please extend the same courtesy. 

I was responding to your religious comment just to make the point you might be insulted by non-religious people but in countries where religion dominates non-religious people die because of the acts of religious people. An extremely contrasting position. 

I would of thought this very thread topic shows the danger of religious views that go unchallenged



Kane1389 said:
Soundwave said:

War with what? What is there is even left in the Middle East to bomb? Iraq has already been bombed back into the stone age, so has Syria. 

And fine, lets have war, so shouldn't all these right wing tough guys be the first to volunteer to go over there and fight? 

There's a word for people who adovocate for war but are too scared to actually do the fighting -- it's called a chickenhawk. 

Hint: Most of these terrorist do not come from either Syria or Iraq. They are mostly born in the west to their immigrant parents from either North Africa or Pakistan. And the reason they turn out the way they do is because Europe has been for the last 60 years a beaon of left wing pussified, limp wristed policies which would rather see people not be branded as racist by far left SWJ sub human cunts than actually stop rampant migrant crime, terrorisam and refusal to assimilation.

So the real war is in our own countries, first and foremost against militant muslims but also against the treacherous, disgusting self loathing limp wristed, pussified far left idiots who enable these militants and protect them from any criticism or initiative by branding everyone racist.

So are you saying our education system needs work? Because during you whole rant, the only logical conclusion I came up with, is that our education/intergration system needs work. 

Because if it isn't the people who come from other countries, but actually people who are born here and transformed into monsters, than maybe it is the intergration of individuals in society that is the problem. 

Also try being a bit more level headed (Anger is a fine emotion, but you lose your points if all you do is insult the other side). 

PS: I am all for assimilation, but not anti-migration. 



 

bonzobanana said:

I was responding to your religious comment just to make the point you might be insulted by non-religious people but in countries where religion dominates non-religious people die because of the acts of religious people. An extremely contrasting position. 

I would of thought this very thread topic shows the danger of religious views that go unchallenged

There's nothing wrong with challenging religious views, I just don't appreciate going into a thread about a horrific tragedy and then being called "mentally infant". This isn't a thread about religious discussion, if it was I would never have entered it in the first place.



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teigaga said:
think-man said:
Its time to be be cut
Throat and started exporting these people. They have proved they cannot integrate.

You think the best way to deter extremism is to ostracise a whole population on basis of their faith or ethnicity despite less than 0.0001% of them actually committing terror crimes? That would multiply the terror threat 10x fold and it's also not practical.

In France we have 10.000 people classified as radical and potentially dangerous muslims. so, that's 1 to 500 muslims, 2%, and that's a lot, including only known people. So, let's say it's not acceptable that your family is at risk of dying in the hand of a crazy islamist. And let's say that there is no way to stop a single guy from renting a truck and play carmageddon IRL. How do you solve the problem ? Or are you telling me, it's OK to not solve the problem, you don't care ?