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DonFerrari said:
bunchanumbers said:

Yes. destroys. Its a gap that is big enough that Sony is trying to figure out new techniques to hide that its not native 4k. At least according to the document. And who knows? Scorpio could retail for $400. The RX480 shows that power can be cheap.

But what is clear is that Sony needs to take advantage of the gap before Scorpio launches.

Yes... PS2 was hiding in the sands in fear of Xbox being a lot more powerfull than it.

The ps2 had the advantage of being a dirt cheap dvd player. Streaming services killed the media advantage playstation had. Even if you factor in 4k bluray, the Xbox 1 S is a cheaper option. Sony's biggest advantage is the time gap between launches.



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bunchanumbers said:
Smart move on Sony's part. It'll sell regardless of whatever is under the hood. It could be 2 hamsters on a wheel chasing a potato on a string. Sony will advertise it like its the second coming and it'll sell millions. Even if it doesn't, they already got 40 million people invested in the Sony ecosystem. They're not gonna change brands just because Scorpio destroys Neo in power.

*has flashback to when the PS3 was announced*



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I hope it's fake. Cuz I don't want another piece of hardware! AGGHHH! Fook dis zhit~ PS4k, Scorpio, NX. I dun give a fook!



Barkley said:
Pemalite said:

As far as I am aware Microsoft and Sony have not released pricing information, so that is a bold statement to make.
One would assume that Microsoft would want to be competitive on price, launching later might allow them that opportunity.

That a 4.2TFlop machine will cost less than a 6Tflops machine? Nah that's not a bold statement.

It's launching 6-12 months or more later. You underestimate how quickly hardware reduces in price.

14nm is still fairly expensive due to how new it is, yields are going to improve, chips will be cheaper to make.

Also Teraflops isn't related to chip production cost, never was, never will no idea why you used them.




Pemalite said:
Barkley said:

That a 4.2TFlop machine will cost less than a 6Tflops machine? Nah that's not a bold statement.

It's launching 6-12 months later. You underestimate how quickly hardware reduces in price.

In which case Sony could easily do a price cut on the Neo in response.



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Turkish said:
jungemann said:
really disappointed by the neo
i hope they'll go with the option b, aka more potent. this will only get destroyed by xbox scorpio

 

Lrdfancypants said:
I think it's silly to release it weaker than the xbox scorpio.

Everyone says power doesn't matter but it does.

If you are staring at two devices that share 90% of their game library, have similar media capabilities and are priced within reason of one another why not choose the more powerful piece of electronics? I will.

Who cares about the Scorpio at this point? It won't come out for another ~17 months. The Neo is rumored to come out this year. I dont think many will care about Scorpio's 4K capabilities because not many have 4K tvs and still wont by holiday 2017. If your XBone games look the same, but just rendered in 4K like Spencer said, it'd be a major dissapointment.

 

People want better graphics, effects, better performance, maybe downsamping, I hope the NEO delivers just that at 1080p.

first of all, the scorpio will release 12 months after neo, if the neo will come out this year. if not, the gap is even closer
second of all, if not many will cares about scorpio's 4k capabilities, why should people care about neo's 4k capabilities, that are inferior compared to the scorpio and are even less imporant this year, because many dont have 4k tvs. less than next year, lol



Barkley said:
Pemalite said:

It's launching 6-12 months later. You underestimate how quickly hardware reduces in price.

In which case Sony could easily do a price cut on the Neo in response.

Sony might not have made the same deal with AMD+Global Foundries that Microsoft has, meaning their costs might actually be higher.

Microsoft's chip might be smaller and cheaper to manufacture.

Microsoft might be willing to eat some of the costs to shift more units.|

So many maybes, that really, you have no idea if the Neo will be a lower price. ;)



Pemalite said:

So many maybes, that really, you have no idea if the Neo will be a lower price. ;)

Assuming the specs in the document are the same as the final retail neo I can say with 100% certainty that the Neo will have a price advantage over the Scorpio. You can praise my brilliant insight next year.



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His is outdated information that could or could not be indicative of what the Neo is now.

- this presentation was made before Scorpio announcement
- this presentation was completed before SCEI became SIE
- SCEI became SIE January 26, 2016. Again this presentation is OLD
- other tumors have circulated in the meantime that Sony had been playing with multiple different tiers of power for the Neo. I don't think that, given scorpions announcement, this presentation holds weight now



aLkaLiNE said:
His is outdated information that could or could not be indicative of what the Neo is now.

- this presentation was made before Scorpio announcement
- this presentation was completed before SCEI became SIE
- SCEI became SIE January 26, 2016. Again this presentation is OLD
- other tumors have circulated in the meantime that Sony had been playing with multiple different tiers of power for the Neo. I don't think that, given scorpions announcement, this presentation holds weight now

I think Sony should see a doctor then. Tumors are nothing to play with :)

I do agree though.



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