I hope it's fake. Cuz I don't want another piece of hardware! AGGHHH! Fook dis zhit~ PS4k, Scorpio, NX. I dun give a fook!

It's launching 6-12 months or more later. You underestimate how quickly hardware reduces in price.

14nm is still fairly expensive due to how new it is, yields are going to improve, chips will be cheaper to make.

Also Teraflops isn't related to chip production cost, never was, never will no idea why you used them.

In which case Sony could easily do a price cut on the Neo in response.

first of all, the scorpio will release 12 months after neo, if the neo will come out this year. if not, the gap is even closer
second of all, if not many will cares about scorpio's 4k capabilities, why should people care about neo's 4k capabilities, that are inferior compared to the scorpio and are even less imporant this year, because many dont have 4k tvs. less than next year, lol

Sony might not have made the same deal with AMD+Global Foundries that Microsoft has, meaning their costs might actually be higher.

Microsoft's chip might be smaller and cheaper to manufacture.

Microsoft might be willing to eat some of the costs to shift more units.|

So many maybes, that really, you have no idea if the Neo will be a lower price. ;)

Assuming the specs in the document are the same as the final retail neo I can say with 100% certainty that the Neo will have a price advantage over the Scorpio. You can praise my brilliant insight next year.

His is outdated information that could or could not be indicative of what the Neo is now.

- this presentation was made before Scorpio announcement
- this presentation was completed before SCEI became SIE
- SCEI became SIE January 26, 2016. Again this presentation is OLD
- other tumors have circulated in the meantime that Sony had been playing with multiple different tiers of power for the Neo. I don't think that, given scorpions announcement, this presentation holds weight now

PS4 had nothing of it and yet sold a lot more... so?

You are surely assuming a lot. So since speculation is useless we can only go for the "real" differences.

If Sony start producing the same tecnology 1 year earlier they will have bigger improvements in cost.

If the power and frequency of the chip is smaller they will have better output rates on the dies.

By being a litle weaker it will drain less power, generate less heat, probably be smaller and cheaper as well (including power supply and cooling system).

All you put isn't exactly smaller cost but smaller margins or negative margins, so final price could be small for MS, but cost won't.

MS pretty much destroyed themselves with the DRM fiasco and ps4 does have a power advantage. Plus Sony had that brilliant launch advertising campaign. The one with the crowds and the girl who said 'All my friends who are gamers own Playstation.' Followed with Greatness Awaits. It was a masterclass in marketing. I fully expect them to do it again. Its why I said it could be 2 hamsters. Sony has a year and a good marketing team. Neo will sell millions.

Neo had better sell millions otherwise it will look like a flop.

I would like to see Microsoft (And Nintendo!) match Sony in terms of sales, even if it is an uphill battle as competition is good for all consumers.

I was using the assumptions to hone in on a point. - That no one truly knows where Neo or Scorpio is going to land in terms of performance and price, except AMD as they are the only entity who can see over both sides of the fence.
All we have are rumors, which should always be taken with a grain of salt untill legitimate information comes out from Microsoft/Sony.

We have no information on performance, die sizes, yields, clocks, ram capacities, price, nothing.
For all we know Scorpio is using an extremely small chip but with a super high clock rate which makes it cheaper to produce than the Neo.

One thing we know for certain though is that fabrication is constantly improving.
Sony and Microsoft will likely both be using Global Foundries as that is where the bulk of AMD's deals lay at the moment.
That means whatever AMD and Global foundries learn about fabricating the Neo SoC will also be applied to Scorpio.

Remember, Sony and Microsoft are not allowed to deal with these chips at a low-level only AMD and it's Fab partners, so whatever improvements are made at the fab level tend to apply to everyone.