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Are they?

No, only Nintendo with Pokemon. 328 78.47%
 
Yes, Sony with __________. 61 14.59%
 
Yes, Microsoft with____________. 29 6.94%
 
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Soundwave on 14 July 2016
GOWTLOZ said:
mountaindewslave said:

Minecraft is popular but not on a cultural level really. People like playing the game but they're not going to cons constantly cosplaying as them and you're not seeing a kajillion shirts and toys everywhere the same way as you see with Pokemon

Sony and Microsoft lack powerful IPs that the public is strongly connected to. They have nothing on the level Mario, Pokemon, Zelda

Gran Turismo, Halo and Uncharted are as big or bigger than Zelda. But Sony and MS have nothing like Mario and Pokemon, every gamer and non gamer knows about them. They are cultural icons, Pokemon mainly due to the popularity of the anime and games and Mario by its first few games that at the time were revolutionary.

Sony and MS haven't been long enough in this industry to do that, they don't have that many people who played their games from childhood, and Sony keeps bringing new IP's over making games in the same IP for decades with only few exceptions, and their biggest IP has cars made by other companies.

I dunno if any of those IP will have the longevity of Zelda. 

Gran Turismo is pretty much declining massively. 

Zelda is 30 years old and still a big deal to a lot of people, not sure where Halo or Uncharted will be when they're even 20. 



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V-r0cK on 14 July 2016
mountaindewslave said:
V-r0cK said:
I'm not going to say no because all things are possible, maybe not now but it's a matter of timing and marketing.

Pokemon's been out for 20yrs now and Pokemon Go was only possible by the growth in technology in the pass 2 decades to create a smart phone and data etc...

My bet, something like Microsoft's Hololens using AR and Konami's Yugioh can beat Pokemon Go. Just image seeing people dualing at parks and such, to me that's something more incredible than Pokemon Go.

It may not happen soon, but when the time is right, just like how the time is right for Pokemon Go after 20yrs. Who knows what the future technology can hold for something else down the line.

no offense dude but Yugioh is not on anywhere near the scale of Pokemon. the Pokemon Company alone is a 1 billion dollar company just based on... Pokemon. Yugioh is dead besides the card game and even that is unlikely to be more popular than even the Pokemon card game at this point

I know Yugioh hasn't been sucessful the last few years.  But there still are dedicated players and still sell cards.  If the game isn't officially dead then there's still a chance to revive, just need the right time and marketing.  

So what if Pokemon is a billion dollar company?  That's a company that's 20yrs in the making.  Angry Birds came out more recently, a completely new game, and exploded the mobile gaming industry and they didn't start off as a billion dollar company.  A billion dollar company doesn't mean a thing as long as you have the right idea.  Like I said, anything is possible, you're just looking at the present time rather than thinking about possible futures.



GOWTLOZ on 14 July 2016
Soundwave said:
GOWTLOZ said:

Gran Turismo, Halo and Uncharted are as big or bigger than Zelda. But Sony and MS have nothing like Mario and Pokemon, every gamer and non gamer knows about them. They are cultural icons, Pokemon mainly due to the popularity of the anime and games and Mario by its first few games that at the time were revolutionary.

Sony and MS haven't been long enough in this industry to do that, they don't have that many people who played their games from childhood, and Sony keeps bringing new IP's over making games in the same IP for decades with only few exceptions, and their biggest IP has cars made by other companies.

I dunno if any of those IP will have the longevity of Zelda. 

Gran Turismo is pretty much declining massively. 

Zelda is 30 years old and still a big deal to a lot of people, not sure where Halo or Uncharted will be when they're even 20. 

I don't think Gran Turismo is declining. GT6 sold 5 million on PS3 even though it was released in its biggest market the same time as PS4 and a few weeks after Xbox One, when the PS4 had incredible hype. Its the best selling racing game released since 2013 after Mario Kart 8 despite it being released at the wrong time. If it were a PS4 game it would have sold better.

Halo has declined, but its still very big, and it could make a return if Halo 6 has the feature that all Halo games before 5 did, and comes to PC.

Uncharted has ended, but its been a huge franchise for the past few years, and Uncahretd 3 and Skyward Sword released in the same year, Skyward Sword on the bigger install base with less competition from other games, guess which one sold more.



think-man on 14 July 2016

No, and tbh thats probably a good thing.



 

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Train wreck on 14 July 2016
Soundwave said:
GOWTLOZ said:

Gran Turismo, Halo and Uncharted are as big or bigger than Zelda. But Sony and MS have nothing like Mario and Pokemon, every gamer and non gamer knows about them. They are cultural icons, Pokemon mainly due to the popularity of the anime and games and Mario by its first few games that at the time were revolutionary.

Sony and MS haven't been long enough in this industry to do that, they don't have that many people who played their games from childhood, and Sony keeps bringing new IP's over making games in the same IP for decades with only few exceptions, and their biggest IP has cars made by other companies.

I dunno if any of those IP will have the longevity of Zelda. 

Gran Turismo is pretty much declining massively. 

Zelda is 30 years old and still a big deal to a lot of people, not sure where Halo or Uncharted will be when they're even 20. 

Unless Sony and Microsoft officially say that these games are coming to an end (as in discontinued), they will always have longevity on their side.  Longevity and populatiry are two different arguements and you are trying to blend them to discredit those games.  If Sony and Microsoft hold on and protect those IP (19 years for GT and 16 yeras for Halo) they will be around.



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bunchanumbers on 14 July 2016

Nope. Taking over the world like this is a Nintendo thing. The twins can't do it because it requires appealing to everyone and being willing to take a risk.



thismeintiel on 14 July 2016
think-man said:
No, and tbh thats probably a good thing.

Agreed. Don't want them shifting to mobile, something Nintendo may do if the NX tanks.  And while Sony may not be doing it with SW, they are constantly doing it with HW.  You had the Walkman back in the day, a huge phenomenon, and more recently the PS brand, which has become synonymous with gaming in a lot of countries.



 

deskpro2k3 on 14 July 2016

I think the only one that is capable of pulling it off is Sony, but I don't want Sony to shift to mobile gaming because I don't like it. lol



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Train wreck on 14 July 2016
thismeintiel said:
think-man said:
No, and tbh thats probably a good thing.

Agreed. Don't want them shifting to mobile, something Nintendo may do if the NX tanks.  And while Sony may not be doing it with SW, they are constantly doing it with HW.  You had the Walkman back in the day, a huge phenomenon, and more recently the PS brand, which has become synonymous with gaming in a lot of countries.

Ditto, maybe these posters are too young to remember the Sony Walkman or they happen to be the ~5% of people who don't use a Microsoft operating system.



GOWTLOZ on 14 July 2016
bunchanumbers said:
Nope. Taking over the world like this is a Nintendo thing. The twins can't do it because it requires appealing to everyone and being willing to take a risk.

There is no risk in Pokemon Go. It has a small budget and uses the Pokemon IP.

Risk would be like having AAA games that have never been done before and where there is a likelihood that the investment wouldn't be worth it like Gran Turismo, God of War and Halo were. Sony also takes a lot of risks with new games with big budgets that are targetting an audience which may not be there.

Nintendo has taken risks in the past, but Pokemon Go is not one of them.