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Did you survive YLOD/RROD?

My PS3 died 55 17.35%
 
My PS3 is still ok 107 33.75%
 
My Xbox360 died 74 23.34%
 
My Xbox360 is still ok 28 8.83%
 
My Wii will outlive every... 53 16.72%
 
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SvennoJ said:
Hmm the plot thickens for my old 360. I borrowed a different power supply, rated the same 203w, now my 360 flashes 3 red lights while the power supply goes to green and back to orange. (my old power supply simply went to red when trying to turn on the 360 with no reaction from the 360)

The Microsoft site is not very helpful, hardware problem with either 360 or power supply, thanks... If power supply goes green, 360 is kaput, goes red, power supply bad, stays orange try a different power socket. I tried a few, stays orange, 360 why you no like Canadian electricity :/

Any clue? Guess I'll bring it to my local shop to get advice what to do with it.

 

This is very similar to my brothers 360, and yes, its definitely our Canadian power, lol. JK.

It's a power problem, but not the new power brick most likely based on what your supply light is showing. Sounds like your old brick may have had a problem, or took a surge of some sort, which could have also affected the internal power circuit inside the console as well, since the console is older and now weak. Part of the power circuit for the 360 is inside the console itself. Thats where I had to replace my capacitors. I'm not saying its definitely your caps, beacuse there are a few things it could be within the power circuit, but its most likely in the console somewhere. I've read the mosfets in the power circuit shorting out are pretty common on certain 360's.

If you have no electrical knowledge, you could try and see visually if there's a problem, which could give you an idea where the problem lies. The problem isn't always clear to see visually though, so you could be wasting your time as well. You also would need to be a little careful because capacitors hold a charge and you could get shocked. It's unlikely, but possible if you don't know what your doing. 

The mosfets will literally look burned or melted if it shows though visually, and the caps will either have the top "X" or "K" marking popped up like a dome instead of flat, or the bottom rubber is bulged out which usually leads to a tilted cap, or you will see some yellow fluid leaked out on top or below the cap. The cap can also be blown wide open on top with black "powder" all around it, but thats more rare.

If you can't visually see any of that, and don't have any electrical background, its best to take it in to a shop and have them use their equipment and knowledge to troubleshoot it.



Initial 8th gen console wars as explained by The Matrix
XB - Did you know that the XB1 was designed to be a perfect multimedia device? Where none shared, where everyone would use Kinect. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire 360 catalogue was lost. Some believed we lacked the console gamer logic to describe the perfect system, but we believed that, as a community, console gamers define their reality through waiting and micro-transactions. The imperfect hardware was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the XB1 was redesigned to this: the XB1S and XB1X, the peak of console 4k capability.
PS - You're more attractive than I thought. I can see why they like you. - Who? - Not too bright though… You know why Cerny was hired to design the PS4? – Yes. – So, what do you think? Do you think you’re the One? – Honestly, we don’t know. - Do you know what that phrase means? It’s gamer lingo for know thyself. I’m going to let you in on a little secret. Being the One is a lot like being the PS3. No one needs tell you that you screwed up, you just know it, through and through, hardware to exclusives.
Nin - Ok, now I'm supposed to say, hmm, that's interesting, but...then you say...- But what? - But...you already know what I'm going to tell you. - I'm not the Wii. - Sorry tablet. You got the gimmick, but it looks like you're waiting for something. - What? - Your next life maybe, who knows? That's the way these things go...   /  Unfortunately no one can be told what the Wii U is. You have to experience it for yourself. 
PC - Welcome to the x86 real gaming world. 
// //
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I got one RROD from one xbox and no other problems.
My Ps3 Slim (CECH-25xx) is still working like a champion for more than 5 years.

My fat Xbox 360 died, bought a 360S afterwards. Should have probably gone for a PS3 Super Slim or a Wii after the old 360 died.

Elite 120gb. Jasper set chip if I remember correctly? Still running perfect, never had RROD, but I forget what the code was for a failed video card. Microsoft fixed it years ago and I haven't had issues at all with daily use. I did install almost every game to the HDD to avoid anything overheating.

Everyone needs to play Lost Odyssey! Any opposition to this and I will have to just say, "If it's a fight you want, you got it!"

SvennoJ said:
EricHiggin said:

This is very similar to my brothers 360, and yes, its definitely our Canadian power, lol. JK.

It's a power problem, but not the power brick most likely based on what your supply light is showing. Sounds like your old brick may have had a problem, or took a surge of some sort, which could have also affected the internal power circuit inside the console as well, since the console is older and now weak. Part of the power circuit for the 360 is inside the console itself. Thats where I had to replace my capacitors. I'm not saying its definitely your caps, beacuse there are a few things it could be within the power circuit, but its most likely in the console somewhere. I've read the mosfets in the power circuit shorting out are pretty common on certain 360's.

If you have no electrical knowledge, you could try and see visually if there's a problem, which could give you an idea where the problem lies. The problem isn't always clear to see visually though, so you could be wasting your time as well. You also would need to be a little careful because capacitors hold a charge and you could get shocked. It's unlikely, but possible if you don't know what your doing. 

The mosfets will literally looks burned and the caps will either have the top "X" or "K" marking popped up like a dome instead of flat, or the bottom rubber is bulged out which usually leads to a tilted cap, or you will see some yellow fluid leaked out on top or below the cap. The cap can also be blown wide open with black "powder" all around it, but thats more rare.

If you can't visually see any of that, and don't have any electrical background, its best to take it in to a shop and have them use their equipment and knowledge to troubleshoot it. 

Thanks! I'll take it in first so they can check another power supply to confirm it's the console but what you said sounds logical. I don't have that much electrical knowlegde, enough to know how to use a multi meter and soldering iron, and to recognize a capacitor, yet mosfets don't ring a bell. That's what google is for anyway :)

If my store confirms it's my 360 I might take it apart some day when I have nothing better to do. I'm kinda hoping all my games will make it to BC then I'll get them back when I buy a Scorpio :) I opened up my old ylod ps3 before, it's a wall decoration now lol.

Edit: I found the old pic

Some assembly required :)

 

Here is a drawing of the power supply to console connector for the 360

1.Make sure power supply is NOT plugged in.

1.Make a jumper wire (insulated) and stick one bare end in the top left power enable slot, and the other bare end in the top right 5V standby slot. (make sure the bare ends are tight and touching the copper/gold tabs in the connector)

2 Make another jumper wire (insulated) and touch one bare end from one of the middle 12V tab, and touch the other end straight down to the bottom GND tab.

3. Plug in power supply.

4. It should turn green and the fan should start. (you may have to jumper all three, 12V to GND tabs, at the same time. I can't remember exactly if it was just one set at a time or all three sets at once)

As long as you just go middle 12V, straight down to GND, you'll be fine and you won't wreck the power supply. Just make sure your only touching insulated wire though, as touching any bare wire or connector tabs will give you a good jolt.

If you get a green light and fan spinning, there's a 99% chance the power supply is ok. If it goes orange or red, theres a problem with the power supply itself.

5. Make sure to DISCONNECT power supply after testing and REMOVE all jumper wires when finished.



Initial 8th gen console wars as explained by The Matrix
XB - Did you know that the XB1 was designed to be a perfect multimedia device? Where none shared, where everyone would use Kinect. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire 360 catalogue was lost. Some believed we lacked the console gamer logic to describe the perfect system, but we believed that, as a community, console gamers define their reality through waiting and micro-transactions. The imperfect hardware was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the XB1 was redesigned to this: the XB1S and XB1X, the peak of console 4k capability.
PS - You're more attractive than I thought. I can see why they like you. - Who? - Not too bright though… You know why Cerny was hired to design the PS4? – Yes. – So, what do you think? Do you think you’re the One? – Honestly, we don’t know. - Do you know what that phrase means? It’s gamer lingo for know thyself. I’m going to let you in on a little secret. Being the One is a lot like being the PS3. No one needs tell you that you screwed up, you just know it, through and through, hardware to exclusives.
Nin - Ok, now I'm supposed to say, hmm, that's interesting, but...then you say...- But what? - But...you already know what I'm going to tell you. - I'm not the Wii. - Sorry tablet. You got the gimmick, but it looks like you're waiting for something. - What? - Your next life maybe, who knows? That's the way these things go...   /  Unfortunately no one can be told what the Wii U is. You have to experience it for yourself. 
PC - Welcome to the x86 real gaming world. 
// //
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EricHiggin said:

Here is a drawing of the power supply to console connector for the 360

1.Make sure power supply is NOT plugged in.

1.Make a jumper wire (insulated) and stick one bare end in the top left power enable slot, and the other bare end in the top right 5V standby slot. (make sure the bare ends are tight and touching the copper/gold tabs in the connector)

2 Make another jumper wire (insulated) and touch one bare end from one of the middle 12V tab, and touch the other end straight down to the bottom GND tab.

3. Plug in power supply.

4. It should turn green and the fan should start. (you may have to jumper all three, 12V to GND tabs, at the same time. I can't remember exactly if it was just one set at a time or all three sets at once)

As long as you just go middle 12V, straight down to GND, you'll be fine and you won't wreck the power supply. Just make sure your only touching insulated wire though, as touching any bare wire or connector tabs will give you a good jolt.

If you get a green light and fan spinning, there's a 99% chance the power supply is ok. If it goes orange or red, theres a problem with the power supply itself.

5. Make sure to DISCONNECT power supply after testing and REMOVE all jumper wires when finished.

My old power supply simply goes red when I close the pwr enable circuit. I guess it's faulty. The borrowed one worked fine before I got my hands on it and I assume my 360 didn't wreck it. Anyway I don't feel comfortable to short circuit it to find out :)

So it seems it's my 360 that's broken too. Perhaps my faulty power supply overloaded the circuit inside the 360 when it went out. So much for the advantage of an external power supply :/ (Or my 360 shorted and overloaded the power supply) Broken either way.



SvennoJ said:
EricHiggin said:

Here is a drawing of the power supply to console connector for the 360

1.Make sure power supply is NOT plugged in.

1.Make a jumper wire (insulated) and stick one bare end in the top left power enable slot, and the other bare end in the top right 5V standby slot. (make sure the bare ends are tight and touching the copper/gold tabs in the connector)

2 Make another jumper wire (insulated) and touch one bare end from one of the middle 12V tab, and touch the other end straight down to the bottom GND tab.

3. Plug in power supply.

4. It should turn green and the fan should start. (you may have to jumper all three, 12V to GND tabs, at the same time. I can't remember exactly if it was just one set at a time or all three sets at once)

As long as you just go middle 12V, straight down to GND, you'll be fine and you won't wreck the power supply. Just make sure your only touching insulated wire though, as touching any bare wire or connector tabs will give you a good jolt.

If you get a green light and fan spinning, there's a 99% chance the power supply is ok. If it goes orange or red, theres a problem with the power supply itself.

5. Make sure to DISCONNECT power supply after testing and REMOVE all jumper wires when finished.

My old power supply simply goes red when I close the pwr enable circuit. I guess it's faulty. The borrowed one worked fine before I got my hands on it and I assume my 360 didn't wreck it. Anyway I don't feel comfortable to short circuit it to find out :)

So it seems it's my 360 that's broken too. Perhaps my faulty power supply overloaded the circuit inside the 360 when it went out. So much for the advantage of an external power supply :/ (Or my 360 shorted and overloaded the power supply) Broken either way.

Alright no problem. Based on your explanation that you can solder and use a meter I figured it might be worth a shot.

You actually wouldn't be shorting out the power supply per se, and the short amount of time you would be making the connection to verify, wouldn't really hurt anything. Keeping the jumpers on for a very long period of time would eventually do damage, but we're talking a long time.

Have you tried looking up the more specfic secondary codes ?

 

Secondary error codes

An Xbox 360 with three flashing red lights will not power on, so the error message must be obtained by an alternate method.

Obtaining secondary error codes

Power the console on so the three red lights are flashing. While holding the sync button on the front of the console, press and release the disc eject button. The lights will begin flashing in a different pattern. The number of flashing lights in this new pattern determines the first digit of the secondary error code, ranging from 0-3, with all four lights flashing indicating a 0. Continue to hold the sync button, and press and release the eject button three more times to obtain the second, third, and fourth digits of the secondary error code in the same method. Pressing the eject button a fifth time should return the flashing lights to the original Red Ring of Death pattern. You have now obtained your 4-digit secondary error code.

Corresponding error codes

To determine which error message corresponds to your secondary error code, use the error code database provided by Xbox-Experts. 

https://xbox-experts.com/errorcodes.php

 

My brothers code was (E01) 0001 - short circuit in the console/faulty psu. Some of the codes are very specific so its might help you more than just guessing. It may also help the shop you take it to depending on how familiar they are with 360's.

 



Initial 8th gen console wars as explained by The Matrix
XB - Did you know that the XB1 was designed to be a perfect multimedia device? Where none shared, where everyone would use Kinect. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire 360 catalogue was lost. Some believed we lacked the console gamer logic to describe the perfect system, but we believed that, as a community, console gamers define their reality through waiting and micro-transactions. The imperfect hardware was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the XB1 was redesigned to this: the XB1S and XB1X, the peak of console 4k capability.
PS - You're more attractive than I thought. I can see why they like you. - Who? - Not too bright though… You know why Cerny was hired to design the PS4? – Yes. – So, what do you think? Do you think you’re the One? – Honestly, we don’t know. - Do you know what that phrase means? It’s gamer lingo for know thyself. I’m going to let you in on a little secret. Being the One is a lot like being the PS3. No one needs tell you that you screwed up, you just know it, through and through, hardware to exclusives.
Nin - Ok, now I'm supposed to say, hmm, that's interesting, but...then you say...- But what? - But...you already know what I'm going to tell you. - I'm not the Wii. - Sorry tablet. You got the gimmick, but it looks like you're waiting for something. - What? - Your next life maybe, who knows? That's the way these things go...   /  Unfortunately no one can be told what the Wii U is. You have to experience it for yourself. 
PC - Welcome to the x86 real gaming world. 
// //

Of course! Then again, I bought my 360 after the RROD stopped being an issue! The same can be said for my PS3 I think.



                
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I got my PS3 slim in 2011 and have had no issue.

My brother had 3 rrod incidents

I had 1 ylod incident on my launch BC ps3 (tried to fix it and completely killed the thing)
Pretty sad when I lost that guy

Got a slim that's been running fine since

I don't remember the yrs but I remember the ps3 lasting atleast 4 years longer than my brothers 360