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tokilamockingbrd said:
Wyrdness said:

Except we don't care how someone comes to feel this way we only factor in whether someone should be policing being affected in a way you say, if he has this underlying bias towards a certain ethnic group when walking the streets which can lead to him killing an innocent than he shouldn't be policing plain and simple, in the UK he would not be allowed to police as being affected that much by an incident can lead to very bad decisions, should this guy make one mistake one day and people hear what you've just posted here it would be in the media as another racially bias cop itching to kill a black person. 

He would never admit to it affecting him, and of course it would cost him his job if he announced he was jumpy around black people.  I am stating is it is human nature(basic survival skills) to let past events affect the way you handle future circumstances. If you do not do this, well you lack basic survival skills and won't last long anyways (if you are in a position where your life is repeatedly in danger). I personally know 2 white cops who were murdered in cold blood (before this BLM mess) by black people. They only made local news. One was shot while trying to arrest someone, he was pursueing a young black man and when the young man reached behind him... he did not shoot, so he my friend is now dead. One was sitting in his car and a black man walked up and shot him in the head.

Cops are not eager to kill people. However, they want to stay alive. You said you are from the UK. you guys ended slavely earlier than we did and did a much much better job of intergrating former slaves into society than my ancestors did. My generation is now paying for their mistakes. 

If you are "jumpy" around black people, you should do the right thing as a police officer and turn in your badge and gun. 

A black person doesn't deserve to be put into a position where your "jumpiness" or bias (justified or not) could cost them their life because of a misunderstanding. 

If you are "jumpy" around an entire large racial group, you aren't fit to be a police officer. 

I'm sorry if that's harsh, however the police are *public* servants, they are accountable to the public, it is not the public's job to put them at ease. 

If you cannot ensure public safety because of some bias/issue you have you are not fit in high pressure situations where a mistake you make could mean death for someone else, in the same way a pilot who has an issue with say vertigo or is "jumpy" in tight spaces shouldn't be flying a freaking air craft. 



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tokilamockingbrd said:

He would never admit to it affecting him, and of course it would cost him his job if he announced he was jumpy around black people.  I am stating is it is human nature(basic survival skills) to let past events affect the way you handle future circumstances. If you do not do this, well you lack basic survival skills and won't last long anyways (if you are in a position where your life is repeatedly in danger). I personally know 2 white cops who were murdered in cold blood (before this BLM mess) by black people. They only made local news. One was shot while trying to arrest someone, he was pursueing a young black man and when the young man reached behind him... he did not shoot, so he my friend is now dead. One was sitting in his car and a black man walked up and shot him in the head.

Cops are not eager to kill people. However, they want to stay alive. You said you are from the UK. you guys ended slavely earlier than we did and did a much much better job of intergrating former slaves into society than my ancestors did. My generation is now paying for their mistakes. 

If you are "jumpy" around black people, you should do the right thing as a police officer and turn in your badge and gun. 

A black person doesn't deserve to be put into a position where your "jumpiness" or bias (justified or not) could cost them their life because of a misunderstanding. 

If you are "jumpy" around an entire large racial group, you aren't fit to be a police officer. 

I'm sorry if that's harsh, however the police are *public* servants, they are accountable to the public, it is not the public's job to put them at ease. 

If you cannot ensure public safety because of some bias/issue you have you are not fit in high pressure situations where a mistake you make could mean death for someone else, in the same way a pilot who has an issue with say vertigo or is "jumpy" in tight spaces shouldn't be flying a freaking air craft. 

I already said someone known to be jumpy would not be allowed to patrol. Likely if it was caused by a tramitic experiance they would be stuck at a desk or the evidence room... 

So jumpy is not really the right word. Extra cautious is probably a better way to say it. And it you look up the crime statisics in certain areas, it would be wise to be extra cautious. 



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tokilamockingbrd said:

He would never admit to it affecting him, and of course it would cost him his job if he announced he was jumpy around black people.  I am stating is it is human nature(basic survival skills) to let past events affect the way you handle future circumstances. If you do not do this, well you lack basic survival skills and won't last long anyways (if you are in a position where your life is repeatedly in danger). I personally know 2 white cops who were murdered in cold blood (before this BLM mess) by black people. They only made local news. One was shot while trying to arrest someone, he was pursueing a young black man and when the young man reached behind him... he did not shoot, so he my friend is now dead. One was sitting in his car and a black man walked up and shot him in the head.

Cops are not eager to kill people. However, they want to stay alive. You said you are from the UK. you guys ended slavely earlier than we did and did a much much better job of intergrating former slaves into society than my ancestors did. My generation is now paying for their mistakes. 

I'm going to tell you one more time if you still don't understand than we'll leave it at that, the issue is not how he became that way, human nature or any of that it's his ability to police while he is affected that way. In the UK someone would never be allowed to police in that state a key example being a woman who was turned down from joining the police force because she was affected from her mother's death in an armed robbery leading to fears in her assessment that she may be driven by revenge rather than the mentality to police impartially. It's nothing against the people you know but for the good of both the public and the police force anyone affected in that way shouldn't police.

The UK we have our problems especially recently but the reason we're more successful being diverse than most if not all countries is a combination of things on top of integration but the main thing is the British mentality of us just being one group and the diversity being taken and treated by most people as a proud trait which is why racism is seen as an attack on everyone and one of the country's best traits. We are a country where almost everyone is descended from either a migrant, family from the former colonies we invaded or invader from the dark ages after all so it was diverse before most countries.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Darama said:
And this is why Police shoot black people in the first place.

lol, is it even confirmed the shooters are black?

Anyways, that fucking sucks for those victims and their families. Is it really that surprising though? Cops so carelessly shoot so many young black males. It wouldn't be shocking for a few of them to fight back.

They actually shoot far more unarmed white males and native americans than they do black people, but you dont hear about it in the media, because it doesnt support the far left narrative and they cant sell racism+victimization shtick that way



Edit:  Actually, screw it, I'm out.  Anyone who saw my post, forget it.  I'm done here.  Don't know why I kept posting here when it has become a logic treadmill and it's just everyone reitterating the same things over and over.