Yeah, I've already been schooled about that. Looking forward the specs to see what they've changed from the original X1.

No but sales show that the games that have been given for gold are games people care about. 

Unless you don't believe the X1 provides "good returns" on gaming, why wouldn't a similarly priced PC that outperforms it reach that standard? That's without considering the long-term financial benefits of PC gaming either (both in game prices, and the lack of paid online).

(I'm not trying to say [x] or [y] is better here, i'm just a tad confused).

Which, if you receive a minimum of 3 games/month, means receiving 144 games for free during those 4 years. I am pretty sure you will find that value come back to in some of those games :).

I am sure I may too. Alternatively, on the PC side, I can always hunt for humble bundles, crazy Steam & GOG discounts on much bigger libraries, run countless number of emulators, guaranteed backward and forward compatibility, and do many other things besides gaming.

We can't continue to selelctively choose what "extras" to include in these type of comparisons and which "extras" we don't. 

I don't have an issue with people preferring consoles, but let's include all benefits you get from buying either and make proper comparisons before passing opinions.

Which is the best value is an entirely subjective statement.

I'm always going to have a PC. I can edit images, create spreadsheets and documents, take online classes, and all sorts of other things, all with free programs. Why shouldn't I throw in more money on top of that so I can play games, too?

For me, that's the best value.

For someone else? That all depends on their own personal wants and needs.

Good point for things other than gaming a PC is more useful. 

I just don't see it. With all the extra stuff that a PC can do that an Xbox can't (or at least doesn't do well) and how cheap games are on PC with sales, humble bundles or straight up giveaways/gifts I don't see how the Xbox can be considered a better value than PC.
I only see 2 advantages for Xbox and that's it's slightly cheaper up front cost and how it easy it is to setup compared to building a PC (or paying somebody to build it which goes back to upfront costs).

Sure, if you like being handed games instead of deciding what you want to get.

With every console generation, a new controller is needed. With PC, you can still use your 20-year-old keyboard and mouse if they still work. And the chances are pretty high that you already own a keyboard and a mouse. Not everyone does, but a lot of people already have a desktop, and even laptop people usually have a mouse.

Anyway, apparently this is another PC vs. consoles comparison. And yet again, it conveniently forgets subscription costs, more expensive games, the cost of potentially owning multiple consoles, and probably a lot of other, less important but still relevant things. I really doubt there's just one objective truth that applies to everyone when it comes to PC vs. consoles. For some people, PC will offer better value, while to some other people, consoles will offer better value. There might be an objective answer for an average consumer, I doubt almost anyone on this site is qualified to determine it because determining it is most certainly not simple (or rather, it probably is relatively simple, but requires access to a good bit of data, some of which may not even have been collected).

Are they? they tend to be the same games given away with other similar programs. Older games that have already spent the vast majority of their selling prowess.