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Airaku said:
Baryonyx said:

USA have been weak since the day they was declared a livibg product, because they suffer from the long-term effect's from Capitalisme that gave birth to extreme Corporatism that vacuum clean the entire free market, in return between their never-ending esculating competition , their morality died a long time ago, it's now all about profits at all cost.

Deadly amount of sugar in the food is one of the symptoms of a failed system and US is surely number one with UK slagging behind. It's even started in Scandinavia, cause you know? corporations.

As long as Capitalisme is Hijacked by it's own lack of morality or enforced responsibility to sustain a healthy and also a free market.
The irony is that the greater the US appears to get, the bigger the system-fail rate in US goes up.

I never believe these things can be Fixed cause of the diverse opinions in life-styles will prevent common good. A Nation isn't a Nation unless they stand for the same values, if you don't like your Nation then move somewhere who is more fit for you.

A lot of what you say is true about America and capitalism. There is no denying this unfortunately. Hell, some days I consider Obama more of a Capitalist than a Socialist to be quite frank with you.

Though just a small words of advice.

1) This thread was meant to be a joke, not a political debate.
2) Please check your spelling and grammar if you want people to be a little more serious with you. It doesn't need to be perfect, but at least legible for the most. I did understand what you were saying, but some people won't even both to read that.

I would if i could. It's sometimes quite challenging to begrammatically correct when your native language got a different structure  + Having problem sleeping and it's hard to pay attention to details in zombie mode. But yes you are correct, lack of proper Grammar will not provide me or anyone else any favors at all in term of straining our minds. I wish i knew english good enough to type in way that feels natural, so far i need re-valuate everything i type and it's exhausting if a conversation last for longer then a hour.

 

I wasn't exactly serious, but i am weird enough to give a very serious impression that i am being serious when in fact i am just tagging myself into the ring just to have something to do. 

 

Polititics is usually two-sides of the same coin, same amount of good and bad but different, it doesn't matter who wins, there will always be more bad then good in this world anyway... Talking about it just separate us more from each-other instead of bonding 



 

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If America is so free why isn't weed legal?...



 

Riverstyx said:
If America is so free why isn't weed legal?...

Because US is a Capitalist state that have been Hijacked and controlled by Corporatism who unfortunately can't legally sell weed as a competing product like what you can do with Alcohol and weed is alcohol's biggest enemy. So keep Weed illegal (Profits by illegal means) and that will keep the alcohol business alive (Profits by legal means)  Freedom is only Worth it if you can profit from it, cause money is true power.



 

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America's farms are failing even though we've stopped giving them water and have started giving them gatorade for added electrolytes. Electrolytes are what plants crave!



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Low78wagon said:
Baryonyx said:

USA have been weak since the day they was declared a livibg product, because they suffer from the long-term effect's from Capitalisme that gave birth to extreme Corporatism that vacuum clean the entire free market, in return between their never-ending esculating competition , their morality died a long time ago, it's now all about profits at all cost.

Deadly amount of sugar in the food is one of the symptoms of a failed system and US is surely number one with UK slagging behind. It's even started in Scandinavia, cause you know? corporations.

As long as Capitalisme is Hijacked by it's own lack of morality or enforced responsibility to sustain a healthy and also a free market.
The irony is that the greater the US appears to get, the bigger the system-fail rate in US goes up.

I never believe these things can be Fixed cause of the diverse opinions in life-styles will prevent common good. A Nation isn't a Nation unless they stand for the same values, if you don't like your Nation then move somewhere who is more fit for you.

LOL! I'm assuming you are for socialism? 

Woooooooooo! Socialism!



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I don't get politics, I mean, what's even happening? As an outsider to this thing, I feel like there's no one you can thrust here because people will always try to downplay everyone or every "side" they don't agree with and try to make you one of "their side", from the distance I'm in politics seem like a fucking gigantic mess of misinformation, overexagerations over mundane situations derived by people wanting to make things more black and white, lies, and extremists with agendas. If I hit the nail in the head then I guess I'm better off staying as far as I can from it.



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Baryonyx said:
Riverstyx said:
If America is so free why isn't weed legal?...

Because US is a Capitalist state that have been Hijacked and controlled by Corporatism who unfortunately can't legally sell weed as a competing product like what you can do with Alcohol and weed is alcohol's biggest enemy. So keep Weed illegal (Profits by illegal means) and that will keep the alcohol business alive (Profits by legal means)  Freedom is only Worth it if you can profit from it, cause money is true power.

What? Weed is already legal in some US states and sooner or later will be legalized nationwide. On top of that how will legalizing weed take away profits from the alcohol industry? Weed is not a substitute for alcohol, it might be for tobacco but I'm not even sure for that either.

The bottom line for a business is profit anyways, not interest to keep an unwanted good afloat, if weed happens to be a much more profitable venture then most likely a business will switch to that type of product. Here in Canada, the government owned provincial alcohol stores are already getting ready to sell weed as soon as it's legalized, the premier has already proposed for the alcohol stores to sell weed in order to maintain their monopoly.



Baryonyx said:
Airaku said:

A lot of what you say is true about America and capitalism. There is no denying this unfortunately. Hell, some days I consider Obama more of a Capitalist than a Socialist to be quite frank with you.

Though just a small words of advice.

1) This thread was meant to be a joke, not a political debate.
2) Please check your spelling and grammar if you want people to be a little more serious with you. It doesn't need to be perfect, but at least legible for the most. I did understand what you were saying, but some people won't even both to read that.

I would if i could. It's sometimes quite challenging to begrammatically correct when your native language got a different structure  + Having problem sleeping and it's hard to pay attention to details in zombie mode. But yes you are correct, lack of proper Grammar will not provide me or anyone else any favors at all in term of straining our minds. I wish i knew english good enough to type in way that feels natural, so far i need re-valuate everything i type and it's exhausting if a conversation last for longer then a hour.

 

I wasn't exactly serious, but i am weird enough to give a very serious impression that i am being serious when in fact i am just tagging myself into the ring just to have something to do. 

 

Polititics is usually two-sides of the same coin, same amount of good and bad but different, it doesn't matter who wins, there will always be more bad then good in this world anyway... Talking about it just separate us more from each-other instead of bonding 

I was unaware that English was not your first language. So I will give you an apology :) I also suffer from extreme sleep disorders which I've been fighting since about 2006 when it started. Now it's been getting worse.... ugh. Anyways I can relate with you there.I was unaware that English was not your first language. So I will give you an apology :) I also suffer from extreme sleep disorders which I've been fighting since about 2006 when it started. Now it's been getting worse.... ugh. Anyways I can relate with you there.

As for what you said about weed and alcohol. That isn't the reason why it's illegal in United States and Canada (soon it'll change in Canada). The reason is because alcohol can be regulated, taxed, and controlled. Weed cannot. Anyone can grow it in their homes. I used to live in B.C. and if you went up into the mountains. Some people owned huge pot farms. These guy's would be making hundreds of thousands of dollars. If not millions, there's weren't small farms. They were huge! Millions of unregulated money that the government isn't seeing a single dime with.

Oddly enough Vancouver has vending machines in some areas that have small amounts of weed. While it's not legal in BC, they manage to get away with it in comparison of the majority of the country. Now that we have a younger prime minister with a more forward thinking mindset that goes with the younger generations (love him or hate him. It doesn't matter.) he knows resistance is futile and they can at least sell it legally in some stores and tax the shit out of it. Some states will likely be doing the same as some states are now legal. Even if the government legally only gets 15-20% of the weed market. That's a shit ton of money that they never had before. People don't realise that is millions annually and far less people get hurt or killed on weed, and yes you can still develop health issues with it unlike popular belief. Also no I don't buy or smoke. I just know the scope of things.

 

Jumpin said:
America's farms are failing even though we've stopped giving them water and have started giving them gatorade for added electrolytes. Electrolytes are what plants crave!

Well now. I assume that you've seen that movie "Idiocracy"? I've heard it's becoming quite popular these days. I saw it back when it  first came out in 2006 and I must say. It's not a good movie, but today it may be one hell of a very educational film. Some people will find this movie rather..... intriguing.

Addressing the point of Gatorade and plants..... shiiiiiiit. Yeah, it's not going to turn out well. Scientifically speaking of course. Not through silly Hollywood logic like this.





http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/




Leadified said:
Baryonyx said:

Because US is a Capitalist state that have been Hijacked and controlled by Corporatism who unfortunately can't legally sell weed as a competing product like what you can do with Alcohol and weed is alcohol's biggest enemy. So keep Weed illegal (Profits by illegal means) and that will keep the alcohol business alive (Profits by legal means)  Freedom is only Worth it if you can profit from it, cause money is true power.

What? Weed is already legal in some US states and sooner or later will be legalized nationwide. On top of that how will legalizing weed take away profits from the alcohol industry? Weed is not a substitute for alcohol, it might be for tobacco but I'm not even sure for that either.

The bottom line for a business is profit anyways, not interest to keep an unwanted good afloat, if weed happens to be a much more profitable venture then most likely a business will switch to that type of product. Here in Canada, the government owned provincial alcohol stores are already getting ready to sell weed as soon as it's legalized, the premier has already proposed for the alcohol stores to sell weed in order to maintain their monopoly.

Yet FBI are allowed to travel to these States and confiscate all the weed from legal weed stores and close it down... Which have happens several times during the these last years. FBI follow the laws set for entire USA while the police are restricted to the laws within their own state. So just because it get legalized within a state, doesn't mean it will be legal within the eyes of the white-house.

 

Also, when it get legal, you can legally grown your own which is great but i doubt legal Marijuana will end up as a corporated owned products.. It will be locked behind prescription just like the rest of the drugs, So far it's still doubtful that liquor-stores will be legalized to sell weed within these 10-20 years because policies takes time to change.

It seem to good to be true and that says it all, so I am allowed to keep my doubts and i hope it doesn't hurt you emotionally in any way.

We can hope and the future is always in motion and i am sure it will be a long bumpy ride before Marijuana can be sold as a regulare none-prescription medicine.



 

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Baryonyx said:
Leadified said:

What? Weed is already legal in some US states and sooner or later will be legalized nationwide. On top of that how will legalizing weed take away profits from the alcohol industry? Weed is not a substitute for alcohol, it might be for tobacco but I'm not even sure for that either.

The bottom line for a business is profit anyways, not interest to keep an unwanted good afloat, if weed happens to be a much more profitable venture then most likely a business will switch to that type of product. Here in Canada, the government owned provincial alcohol stores are already getting ready to sell weed as soon as it's legalized, the premier has already proposed for the alcohol stores to sell weed in order to maintain their monopoly.

Yet FBI are allowed to travel to these States and confiscate all the weed from legal weed stores and close it down... Which have happens several times during the these last years. FBI follow the laws set for entire USA while the police are restricted to the laws within their own state. So just because it get legalized within a state, doesn't mean it will be legal within the eyes of the white-house.

 

Also, when it get legal, you can legally grown your own which is great but i doubt legal Marijuana will end up as a corporated owned products.. It will be locked behind prescription just like the rest of the drunk, So far it's still doubtful that liquor-stores will be legalized to sell weed within these 10-20 years because policies takes time to change.

I think it's given within the next two decades, it's futile to continue a war that cannot be won especially when the world around and the states in the country itself are changing at a rapid pace. All the US presidental candiates at this point support some form of liberalization towards marijuana and it will only become a bigger political issue as time goes on.