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Miyamotoo on 02 July 2016
IsaqueNilton said:
Miyamotoo said:

Its not about power of hardware, there is not one single 3D Zelda game that runs at 60fps, Nintendo said that Zelda doesnt need 60 fps like Mario, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, other platformers...so NX version of Zelda almost certainly won't be 60fps also.

Actually, A Link Between Worlds runs at 60fps, but they said it's because as a game that relies on 3D effects, it works better in 60fps.

ALBW is not 3D Zelda game.



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Goodnightmoon on 02 July 2016
Miyamotoo said:
IsaqueNilton said:

Actually, A Link Between Worlds runs at 60fps, but they said it's because as a game that relies on 3D effects, it works better in 60fps.

ALBW is not 3D Zelda game.

Well maybe not from a gameplay perspective, but is clearly made in 3D.



DonFerrari on 02 July 2016

Good for my Nintendo friends... and not believing it is achievable on WiiU, Why not? It probably could have been done on PS360 (we saw games at higher processing demand) so why wouldn't they be achievable on WiiU that is on par with them?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 02 July 2016
teigaga said:
It really could pass for a PS4/X1 game. Obviously not a cutting edge one but still...

I wonder whether the NX will be a top tier port with new textures, FX, models etc or just better resolution, AA and FPS.

Which PS4/X1 game?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Goodnightmoon on 02 July 2016
DonFerrari said:
Good for my Nintendo friends... and not believing it is achievable on WiiU, Why not? It probably could have been done on PS360 (we saw games at higher processing demand) so why wouldn't they be achievable on WiiU that is on par with them?

Because that's not true.



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DonFerrari on 02 July 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
DonFerrari said:
Good for my Nintendo friends... and not believing it is achievable on WiiU, Why not? It probably could have been done on PS360 (we saw games at higher processing demand) so why wouldn't they be achievable on WiiU that is on par with them?

Because that's not true.

What isn't true? No game close to what Zelda have would run on PS360? What is your evidence for that?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Miyamotoo on 02 July 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Miyamotoo said:

ALBW is not 3D Zelda game.

Well maybe not from a gameplay perspective, but is clearly made in 3D.

You know what I mean when I say 3D, top down game is not real 3D game like all others home console Zelda games.



Hynad on 02 July 2016
DonFerrari said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Because that's not true.

What isn't true? No game close to what Zelda have would run on PS360? What is your evidence for that?

What is your evidence that such a game would run on the PS360?

Visually, a lot of things would have to be scaled back to be possible on the PS360. With all the physics in place, all the dynamic elements, and the polygon count, I really don't see a game doing all this at once for the PS360. 



Goodnightmoon on 02 July 2016
DonFerrari said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Because that's not true.

What isn't true? No game close to what Zelda have would run on PS360? What is your evidence for that?

What is yours for saying the opposite? 

Mine is my eyes and a good memory, because most people seem to have a terrible amnesia when it comes to remember graphics of last gen games, the only open world game that cames remotely close to this one in Ps360 is GTAV, the most expensive game ever, and yet, it doesn't look as good as this on those consoles and it runs at 20fps half of the time, hopefully this will have a mostly stable framerate in release. Tachikoma made an analysis about XCX and she concluded that the game was not possible on Ps360 at least without making remarkable downgrades in some areas. This looks better than XCX and has a way more complex Physics sytem and AI so that makes me think this would not be possible on ps360. 



DonFerrari on 02 July 2016
Hynad said:
DonFerrari said:

What isn't true? No game close to what Zelda have would run on PS360? What is your evidence for that?

What is your evidence that such a game would run on the PS360?

Visually, a lot of things would have to be scaled back to be possible on the PS360. With all the physics in place, all the dynamic elements, and the polygon count, I really don't see a game doing all this at once for the PS360. 

Considering we had Skyrim, GTA V on PS360 I see little reason to say Zelda wouldn't be possible on then. And the bigger evidence that it would be possible is that WiiU isn't really stronger than any of them. And certainly no matter the case you would have to make adequations for any platform you release.

And the guy saying it's impossible is the one that must prove his claim, not reversing the burden of proof.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."