Didn't realise it was hated T_T

I guess I am out of the loop, because I don't see perceive a lot of these things necessarily being hated. Somewhat disliked or having lukewarm receptions, sure (and even then, some of these things are highly decorated, financially successful things), but to be hated? Star Wars TFA, Tomb Raider, and Uncharted 3 are all things that weren't really hated. And two of them being video games, of course people are going to say Uncharted 3 (because the suggestion that it is an unfairly hated work is right in the title).

Fess up, is this really a "I love Uncharted 3" post?

For the record, I would say *other and go with CoD. Sure it gets boring seeing the same thing, but it's not as bad as people make it out to be. Just so popular that the overrated thing comes up and turns to hate.

A forum user is not a trained reviewer it isn't it's job and will not spend 4 hours to write the review of a game. Neither will a forum poster consult others for the review, if you value the review of a forumposter over a professional review, be my guest. But I prefer the reviews of pu.nl, dualshockers.com etc. over user reviews any day. A game is objectively good for the masses if it scores good critically and even better if it manages to claim a few awards. A game can become objectively great if there is a concensus among gamers that the game is great. This list includes games like Orcarina of time, Super Mario 64/Galaxy, FF 7, Uncharted 2, GTA 5, Halo 3, the last of us etc.

From the poll I would say it's definitely Uncharted 3.

How do you measure that training? If I spent four hours writing a review and posted it in this thread is it any less "objective" than if I spent four hours writing a review and IGN posted it?

As for your popularity argument, that's a logical fallacy. Just because a majority or plurality vote for something or prefer something doesn't mean that thing is true or good. This whole consensus thing doesn't hold up either. Where is the cutoff? If 90% of people polled love something, then it's great? The 10% who hate it are irrational? What if it's just 51%? Do we discount the opinions of 49%? Is the majority objective simply by the virtue of being the majority?

Can you provide answers for these questions?

Vita. Yes, some big flaws surround it, but it's still an enjoyable handheld.

Also, modern music is unfairly hated. Once you dig past the generic and common songs from today's age, you'll find a lot of good songs. I'm not a big fan of music, but even i can find a Good song(that ranges from unknown to sligjtly popular) in less than one minute.

Well you don't have a diploma in journalism now have you. If the majority of buyers really likes a game than that's a solid quality meter. A game is made to entertain and if the critics and users prefer one game  over another that game is better. If you belong to the 10% that doesn't like that game or think the other is better well that is because that game simply isn't your taste/thing well that's bad luck. That doesn't change the fact that the game is objectively good for the masses. I don't like nor can I enjoy FF games (including 7) but that doesn't make it a bad game, it's objectively of the greatest ever made.

Another example are soul games which are highly praised by most users and critically and are objectively a great series. But those games are not for everyone, same counts for nearly every game that is available. But you can't say a game can't be objectively measured in therms of quality, because in the same genre some games are better than others. 

If just 51% of hour buyers like the game you didn't deliver a good game. But games like those are either really niche or just mediocre like the order 1886. A convincing number starts if st least 80% of your community enjoyed the game. Which I am sure nearly  if not all 85+ games on proffesional meta achieved. See it like this if 90% of the buyers enjoy a game it contains very little experience breaking flaws if a mere 51% enjoys the game it will have some experience breaking flaws, whether you bother with them or not is up to your taste. But the game with the high critical rate and presumably high percentage of gamers that enjoy the game delivers a better experience to the masses and is a better game. Whether each individual thinks the same about that is non relevant as long as a high percentage (at least 80% for daring, different and innovative games and 85% for familiar games) the masses and the critics do.

Critics are mostly more reliable considering not at least halve of them are fanboys. And they need to represent a company while a user reviews  (especially on metacritic.com) doesn't need to represent anything and many simply trash a game because it isn't on their platform or BS reasons like that. You have some good user reviews but the majority is not really representative and is either I like this game so 10/10 or I hate this game so a 0/0. If a reviewer of IGN does that he will lose his job rather fast.

Imo Zelda Skyward Sword doesn't deserve the hate it gets. Its dungeons and pre-dungeon areas are so brilliantly designed and the game has many good sidequests in Skyloft. The boss battles are mostly amazing (dat Koloktos), the items are very well used (unlike Twilight Princess) and personally I found the combat very engaging and immersive. Very good game even with its flaws.

We don't hate the Vita but the total abundance of Sony is support for the platform. Music isn't hated, popular crap with a way too big empasis on sex sells is. I haven't heard someone trashing someone like Adele in a really long time.

From the stuff listed here, I'd say that Star Wars VII isn't really hated... I mean as a movie it was a disappointment but I don't think anyone actively hates it, that said on looking back at what JJ did with that film... I mean he is sort of lacking on the original ideas with his stuff, if you think about how much of Star Trek Enter Darkness was cloned from either The Wrath of Khan or the final season of Star Trek : Enterprise, then we get Star Wars Ep VII a new new hope, I mean I'm not sure how much of the blame for this falls to JJ, but 2 movies with very little original ideas landing in both Star universes. fairly sad state.

But yeah, I don't have ep VII, just... could have been a better movie, it wasn't a bad movie, just not something groundbreaking.

Kayne, Bieber, Lil Wayne are all horrible human beings for children to look up to, they deserve all their hate.
Batman Vs Superman was fucking appalling, so much hype followed by such a pile of shit, deserves hate.
Tomb Raider reboot was meant to be great, not sure this is hated by anyone?
Xbox one isn't hated by much, just there are better options for what it offers which most people are happy to take.
Uncharted 3 is hated? I missed it at launched and just experienced it in the drake collection on ps4, how could you hate that title? was like playing an Indiana movie.


As for the Other option, I'm with Hershel on this, people who say Vita and mention legacy console should get a square kick between the legs imo, just at least google what Sony were doing when they listed the OLED model as legacy when the LCD version was pushed out, in the same logic the X1 (launch model) will be Legacy when the X1S arrives, has nothing to do with dropping the console, like I said, using that line now is as tired and uneducated on the subject to perfectly grant the user a kick in the stones imo.

Also if someone talks down about the 3ds and mentions 240p, they need a slap and to actually pick up the system and see that Digital foundry and pixel counting are fun only up to the point where you have a handheld with OOT3d, Lylat Wars, Majoras Mask, Super Street Fighter 4, Resident Evil Revelations, Metal Gear Solid 3.... and so on on it, the fact that the resolution is what someone suggests stops them being able to enjoy something like gaming makes me just wish that they were alive and gaming 30 years ago when the NES was a thing so that they could count the pixels then and decides they wouldn't get into the hobby.

PC gaming also gets hate.... it's.... because of certain users I fear more than the platform itself but PC, Steam and BattleNet do not deserve the hate which some people hold towards them, Steam is an absolute masterpiece of a service to gamers and fights piracy on the PC just by being such a good tool delivering good value to gamers and a very very good platform for holding peoples games. I really think some users could defend the PC a little less on here and the platform might actually attract more fans or more so it would allow people to suggest they like PC gaming without the fear of being associated with the fanbase who go too far with their love, but I guess all platforms are guilty of this to a small degree at times.