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I am a Bernie Sanders' supporter and I am voting for:

Clinton 114 27.80%
 
Donald Trump 123 30.00%
 
Donald Trump cuz America ... 41 10.00%
 
No one 132 32.20%
 
Total:410

Vote trump :) I wanna see what he does with the power of presidency.

(probably wont be good, but could be fun)

Lets see if he really does spend that fortune building that insane "new wall of china" to protect them against mexico.



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Sticking it to the man/woman by voting for Trump... Yeah that's a brilliant idea.



theprof00 said:
As a bernie supporter, it makes more sense to me to have trump than hillary.

Very interested in knowing why would Trump make more sense.



Okie_Loki said:
I'll just say this, after Bernie's campaign, if you vote for Hillary you're a hypocrite.

Ron Paul supporters back in 2012 didn't back Romney. Went against their principle.

That's completely false and presumptive. There are a lot of "lost souls", low-information voters, and people that haven't really been politically involved or associated with a party that may feel that way.

However, as a staunch liberal Democrat I certainly loved Bernie's message, voted for him in the primary, but you better believe I'll be voting for Hillary in November.

And considering what's at stake with the Supreme court, veto power over a Republican controlled Congress, I'd say you're more of a hyprocrite for voting for Trump after supporting Bernie. I can assure you with absolute certainy that any Supreme Court nominee that Trump picks would go against absolutely everything Bernie has ever fought for.



dangerguy said:
Okie_Loki said:
I'll just say this, after Bernie's campaign, if you vote for Hillary you're a hypocrite.

Ron Paul supporters back in 2012 didn't back Romney. Went against their principle.

That's completely false and presumptive. There are a lot of "lost souls", low-information voters, and people that haven't really been politically involved or associated with a party that may feel that way.

However, as a staunch liberal Democrat I certainly loved Bernie's message, voted for him in the primary, but you better believe I'll be voting for Hillary in November.

And considering what's at stake with the Supreme court, veto power over a Republican controlled Congress, I'd say you're more of a hyprocrite for voting for Trump after supporting Bernie. I can assure you with absolute certainy that any Supreme Court nominee that Trump picks would go against absolutely everything Bernie has ever fought for.

Bernie railed against Hillary and her being a DC establishment figure, considering she's been there in some form since the 1980s-90s. Bernie railed against Hillary and her cronyism and her insider status. Bernie railed against Hillarys donors and praised his own for being the "common person." Hillary is not for the common person anymore than Trump, so don't presume she is. 

Hillary is not Bernie. And now that Bernie is turning cloak just becausr shes a fellow Democrat is testament to his character. That's the facts. 



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Okie_Loki said:
dangerguy said:

That's completely false and presumptive. There are a lot of "lost souls", low-information voters, and people that haven't really been politically involved or associated with a party that may feel that way.

However, as a staunch liberal Democrat I certainly loved Bernie's message, voted for him in the primary, but you better believe I'll be voting for Hillary in November.

And considering what's at stake with the Supreme court, veto power over a Republican controlled Congress, I'd say you're more of a hyprocrite for voting for Trump after supporting Bernie. I can assure you with absolute certainy that any Supreme Court nominee that Trump picks would go against absolutely everything Bernie has ever fought for.

Bernie railed against Hillary and her being a DC establishment figure, considering she's been there in some form since the 1980s-90s. Bernie railed against Hillary and her cronyism and her insider status. Bernie railed against Hillarys donors and praised his own for being the "common person." Hillary is not for the common person anymore than Trump, so don't presume she is. 

Hillary is not Bernie. And now that Bernie is turning cloak just becausr shes a fellow Democrat is testament to his character. That's the facts. 

 

Well, thanks for completely avoiding my point about the Supreme Court nominee. Obivously, you don't understand how that works.



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the-pi-guy said:
Okie_Loki said:
I'll just say this, after Bernie's campaign, if you vote for Hillary you're a hypocrite.

Ron Paul supporters back in 2012 didn't back Romney. Went against their principle.

After Bernie's campaign, if you vote for Trump, you're an even bigger hypocrite.  

There are certain things about Hillary that Bernie is against, but Bernie is wholly against Trump.  Trump is basically the anti-Bernie in every way, shape and form; except for a couple of economic issues.  

I'd argue that both Trump and Hillary are both anti-Bernie to a pretty huge degree.

Hillary is a big corporate donor stooge who is a dyed-in-the-wool establishment political operator. This is a pretty horrendous thing for the American people, because it guarantees more of the same, it's gotten steadily worse over the years. If you're politically independent and look at individual issues of right vs. wrong instead of party affiliation, then you can see that GWB and Obama have been virtually indistinguishable over their presidencies, and the public rhetoric is just window dressing. When everyone in national politics is bought and paid for by the same corrupting influences, your vote literally has no value.

That's what Bernie was so great at : showing that he was different. He stuck to principles and logic to the best of his ability, and by and large was a unique and honest presence in the political spectrum. MEGA CORP/BANK didn't have him under their thumb. In that way, people are attracted to Trump for similar reasons : a total disgust at the political establishment.

Now personally, I don't believe anything that Trump says, because I believe that the only person that matters to Trump is Trump. He doesn't stand on principle, he stands on bluster and the absolute belief that he deserves the power of the Presidency, which is sort of stupid when you think about it.

The POTUS doesn't mean squat anymore, when the hivemind of corrupt paid-for political establishment guarantees the same old shit anyway. We could have Clint's empty chair for POTUS, or a shit-flinging monkey, and the result would be the same. And things will never change, never get better. The system is never going to cede that corrupting influence and structure, because doing the right thing isn't nearly as profitable for the entire political and corporate cabal. So the only thing that will allow change is the inevitable final collapse of the system and country as a whole. Nothing lasts forever.



Okie_Loki said:
I'll just say this, after Bernie's campaign, if you vote for Hillary you're a hypocrite.

Ron Paul supporters back in 2012 didn't back Romney. Went against their principle.

I don't want a monster in the office. I'd vote for Santorum against him. And that's saying something.



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Okie_Loki said:

Bernie railed against Hillary and her being a DC establishment figure, considering she's been there in some form since the 1980s-90s. Bernie railed against Hillary and her cronyism and her insider status. Bernie railed against Hillarys donors and praised his own for being the "common person." Hillary is not for the common person anymore than Trump, so don't presume she is. 

Hillary is not Bernie. And now that Bernie is turning cloak just becausr shes a fellow Democrat is testament to his character. That's the facts. 

There is something you are going to find out about any politician.  Its better to trust the devil you know then the one you don't.  The reason Bernie railed againt the DC establishment is because he was never a democrate to begin with.  He only ran under the democrat ticket because running as an independant pretty kills your chance to become president.  The only reason Bernie wants to change DC establishment is because he was losing.  I am sure if he was winning his attitude would totally be diferent.

Hillary is for the common people about as much as anyone running for President.  I will give you that Bernie is probably much better in that reguard but then again some of the stuff he was promissing on his campaign was never going to happen.  Its one thing to say the pie in the sky dream, its another to promise to make it happen especially since it pretty much would not get traction from Rep or Dems.