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TallSilhouette on 01 July 2016



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hershel_layton on 01 July 2016
ohmylanta1003 said:
Why? Why are these threads even allowed? We know exactly his goal when he makes these.

You're right. I want to make a thread about islam. Pretty simple.

 

Or perhaps you're set out to accuse me of trying to start trouble?



 

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hershel_layton on 01 July 2016
JRPGfan said:
Pemalite said:

Leviticus is Old Testament, which Islam and Judaism is derived form, they share over 50 of the same characters, have allot of the same "events" etc'.
It is only natural for them to show an extreme amount of similarities.

But yes, the Bibles Old Testament is against Pork. "And the pig, though it has a divided hoof, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you."

Keep in mind, they are all Abrahamic religions... But where Christianity and thus the Bible "evolve" over the other two religions is with the New Testament, the Bible states that the Old Testament is no longer relevent, especially the Mosaic laws and should thus never be taken literally. (People still do: Re: Homosexuality.)

With that said, you have Christian Extremists and Terrorists, Judaism extremists and Terrorists, even Buddhist extremists, it's not the religions that are at fault, the fault lays with the individuals who... For the lack of a better word, lack a degree of intelligence and common sense. Aka. They are stupid.

Islamiphobia though does need to end, Muslims should also take a more proactive stance in that regard in the Western world and fight to change peoples opinions by setting good examples and education.
At the end of the day we all bleed the same colour of blood and should be treated with respect, regardless of sexuality, gender, religious affiliation, race, wealth and more.

That just made me laugh :)

A religion where they are vegans, they wont purposelly kill even ants/spiders/worms.... but they have extremists?

What do they do? sit around and meditate extra hard?

Unfortunately he's right. Look into the deep web(past places like CNN) and you'll find cases of Buddhist extremists.



 

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hershel_layton on 01 July 2016
TallSilhouette said:

I recall watching that when it was live.

 

Surprised she wasn't killed. Very brave woman; isn't a complete idiot and actually has a mind of her own. Harsh reality, but people need to stop denying it. 

 

It's more unfortunate considering that I was also sucked into islamic extremism a long time ago. Teaching things like go to Jihad, dont befriend nonbelievers, claim any muslim who misses one prayer is an evil person, etc etc. What they teach is absolutely disgusting.

 

While I don't have anything against the non-extreme muslims, my experience with extremism will always be in the back of my mind. It's something I'll always regret for the rest of my life.



 

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Nem on 01 July 2016
yo_john117 said:
Nem said:

It does only bring about negatives. It was a tool to control the masses and have them police themselves as control wasn't possible to exert any other way in ancient civilizations. Nowadays we have laws and police forces. Theres no upside to religion because all that it could do that is good is poisoned with racism and murderous rules.

So, no. Theres no good to religion.

Nem, come on man, that isn't even remotely true. 

Don't you see by saying such absolute statements, that you are acting like an extremist yourself? 

 

I'm not going to try and debate you over this because I know it never gets either person anywhere but I do hope that you see that it isn't as black and white as you make it out to be.

Why am i an extremist? Cause i'm saying religion is not ok? Ok then. Make the discrimination and killings stop. Then i got no problem. The thing is that can't happen. It's in their book and if they don't follow it they will go to "hell".

If you got a way out of that, by all means. I merely find life more precious than what a book says.



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vgchartzistheworst on 01 July 2016

I've never been on a site more biased than this one.



daredevil.shark on 01 July 2016

Just to let you guys know there is a hostage situation underway in our capital Dhaka. Extremists have killed law enforcement officials in the attack. The extremists are not Muslim because they don't represent Oslam.



TallSilhouette on 01 July 2016
hershel_layton said:
 

It's more unfortunate considering that I was also sucked into islamic extremism a long time ago. Teaching things like go to Jihad, dont befriend nonbelievers, claim any muslim who misses one prayer is an evil person, etc etc. What they teach is absolutely disgusting.

While I don't have anything against the non-extreme muslims, my experience with extremism will always be in the back of my mind. It's something I'll always regret for the rest of my life.

Glad to hear you've grown for the better. If you don't mind me asking, have you always lived in the states? Did you learn that thinking from your parents/community?



hershel_layton on 01 July 2016
TallSilhouette said:
hershel_layton said:

It's more unfortunate considering that I was also sucked into islamic extremism a long time ago. Teaching things like go to Jihad, dont befriend nonbelievers, claim any muslim who misses one prayer is an evil person, etc etc. What they teach is absolutely disgusting.

While I don't have anything against the non-extreme muslims, my experience with extremism will always be in the back of my mind. It's something I'll always regret for the rest of my life.

Glad to hear you've grown for the better. If you don't mind me asking, have you always lived in the states? Did you learn that thinking from your parents/community?

I have lived in the states for the majority of my life. Every other summer I live in the West Bank of Gaza(or in jerusalem).

 

Also, my parents are far from extreme. My mom isn't too religious, and my dad is moderate. Not too religious, but isn't exactly blind of his religion.

 

As for me, I learned the extremist ideology from members of a mosque I sometimes visited. Also had some people I knew who would share books and lectures of nut jobs who are better off in a mental asylum.

 

Only became non-religious after reading 1984 and Malcolm X's autobiography. 



 

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BMaker11 on 01 July 2016
Miguel_Zorro said:
BMaker11 said:

It needs its reformation/enlightenment period, not unlike Christianity went through, long ago. And it needs to start accepting Liberal principles (capital L, not "liberal", like today's politics). Principles such as women's rights, freedom of religion, no death penalties for thought crimes, etc. and accept that there are other people in this world that don't follow Islam, so stop trying to spread Islam to......everywhere. Example.

As much as people like to point out "moderate Muslims" who are "peaceful", or say things like "there are 1.6 billion Muslims. If Islam was really about violence, we'd all be dead", they conveniently leave out some very chilling statistics:

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Link to data, for the lazy: http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

I'm not sure I'd describe people who read the 226 page report lazy.  Not compared to those that cherry pick items from it for a chart.  I had a completely different impression after scanning the report.

"Link for the lazy" was just me actually typing out the URL, so you wouldn't have to =/. To verify that the data was accurate, instead of possibly thinking it was "made up" and just placed onto a picture.

Also, how are these "cherry picked"? It's literally a visual representation of the numbers of Muslims who believe certain things. Is it only "cherry picked" because there are some "good" beliefs that many Muslims have, as noted in the report, but those beliefs weren't put in the chart? Well....so what? Having some "good" belief and believing "Sharia should rule" is not mutually exclusive. You can believe both. The fact is, 1/3 of all Muslims believe Sharia law should be the law of the land. This is an extreme and mainstream belief; not some fringe, "a few Muslims do no represent all of Islam" belief. Hence why a reformation is needed.