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psychicscubadiver said:
binary solo said:

If Maui is short, does that mean Moana is a midget?

So is Heracles not a hot, muscly dude in Greek Mythology? Pretty sure he is.

Disney's visual portrayal of the Hunchback is pretty consistent with every visual portrayal of him in popular entertainment.

Is Aladdin not a poor young Arabian man? (It's also apparently not one of the official tales from 1001 Arabian Nights, could have been totally made up by a French dude).

Fact is, all those examples you cite of Disney artistic licence are still largely based on the physical imagery of the original character. 

I had not seen the side-by-side. So he's tall and wide. That  provides even less reason to assume he's fat. Look at the people that win strength contests. It's not the dudes with pretty sculpted muscles, it's guys that look more like Maui. Just as a reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerlifting

Chuckle, seriously their physical attributes are the only things you care about? Disney re-writes significant amounts of the original material, including turning Hades (a generally good god in the Greek pantheon) into a backstabbing devil, completely altering the villain and ending of the Hunchback, and turning the genie of Aladdin into a wise-cracking comedian. Don't get me wrong, I like their movies, but pretending like they've never done this before, or that Maui being 'fat' is somehow the worst sacrilige to the original material that they've ever perpetrated is ridiculous.

Of course not. But in this case we are talking about the physical representation of characters, not the character's personality or the story. And the characters raised in the previous list simply serve to highlight the difference here. Disney was visually consistent with historical imagery with those character, whereas in the case of Maui Disney is reflecting the modern physical presentation of one of the negative health outcomes of colonisation and exposure to modern western diets.

There is no assuming he's fat. He is fat. Just because those powerlifters can lift heavy weights doesn't make them not fat. It just makes it really unwise to call them fat to their face. 



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Meanwhile here in Italy the name of the movie has been changed to Oceania (name of Australia as a continent) since apparently Moana was an extremely popular porn star in Italy during the 80s and the 90s and people still remember her...



he's not fat at all. Maybe you need glasses?
Having tons of muscles doesn't mean you're fat.



Barozi said:
he's not fat at all. Maybe you need glasses?
Having tons of muscles doesn't mean you're fat.

Maybe but he's ugly as hell.



binary solo said:
psychicscubadiver said:

I had not seen the side-by-side. So he's tall and wide. That  provides even less reason to assume he's fat. Look at the people that win strength contests. It's not the dudes with pretty sculpted muscles, it's guys that look more like Maui. Just as a reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerlifting

Chuckle, seriously their physical attributes are the only things you care about? Disney re-writes significant amounts of the original material, including turning Hades (a generally good god in the Greek pantheon) into a backstabbing devil, completely altering the villain and ending of the Hunchback, and turning the genie of Aladdin into a wise-cracking comedian. Don't get me wrong, I like their movies, but pretending like they've never done this before, or that Maui being 'fat' is somehow the worst sacrilige to the original material that they've ever perpetrated is ridiculous.

Of course not. But in this case we are talking about the physical representation of characters, not the character's personality or the story. And the characters raised in the previous list simply serve to highlight the difference here. Disney was visually consistent with historical imagery with those character, whereas in the case of Maui Disney is reflecting the modern physical presentation of one of the negative health outcomes of colonisation and exposure to modern western diets.

There is no assuming he's fat. He is fat. Just because those powerlifters can lift heavy weights doesn't make them not fat. It just makes it really unwise to call them fat to their face. 

Yeah, because Hercules definitely had red hair, blue eyes, and was clean shaven in the myths. And Jasmine definitely would have worn that gauzy harem outfit around the palace. And Pocahontas definitely looks 12 years old like she actually was. Definitely kept those visuals consistant. 

If you think powerlifters are fat, then it means two things. A) you don't know jack about powerlifting and another assorted strength contests. Those people are carrying muscle not rolls of fat. B) You're fixated on an ideal of 'muscular' that refers to either arobic atheletes or sculpted body builders. The first is reasonable,  but then they reduce themselves to the leanest muscles possible. The second is nothing but show as this video (among many others) can show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAmCxXDkcdI

The best part about all this is that it won't amount to anything. The character design won't change. The movie will still rake in tons of cash. Maui will be a badness, and all the complainers will look like the petulant whiners they are.



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Dudes got no nipples.

That's a much bigger problem.



He reminds me of the Kingpin, who was what, 98% muscle I do believe?



CaptainExplosion said:
ninjapirate42 said:
He reminds me of the Kingpin, who was what, 98% muscle I do believe?

Yes.

"Approximately only two percent of my bodymass is fat. Allow me to show you what 350 pounds of MUSCLE is capable of!"

Exactly, this guy looks like he would destroy anyway. He's not an obese slob there or anything. He just looks like he's built like a solid tank.



He might be built like a solid tank but he ain't got no nips. Poor guy.



Barkley said:
He might be built like a solid tank but he ain't got no nips. Poor guy.

Guys don't need nips, so he really is just the next stage in male evolution.

 

Also, if he were a tank option in Overwatch, I would use him.