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I'm a vegetarian for over a year now. I've lost quite a bit of weight and I haven't experienced any adverse health effects. But I mostly do it from an ethical standpoint.



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I try not to restrict my diet in any way in case I am in a situation where I have to eat something for survival. I knew a guy who ate meat for the first time after 5 years because he was in a different country and ended up in hospital for a week.

Going vegetarian or vegan to me seems like you live in an ideal world where you will always have access to the food you are used to.



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Anfebious said:
I lost around 25 kg with a diet that includes meat. Going vegan/vegetarian won't make you healthier or make you lose weight, take into account that people have to compensate a lack of vitamin with those diets. Sounds so unnatural...

Besides you make cooks around the world waste time trying to cook your recipes. Do you even know how much time it takes to make some sprouted bread?

A normal vegetarian/vegan diet is perfectly natural. Just like when you eat meat, if you don't eat varied enough, you'll get deficiencies.



Plants give us oxygen, why would you eat them?  You'll be eating the foods that my food eats, and I do not appreciate that.



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Personally I have a nice, no meat two days in the week, which has worked for me for many years. I would not give up meat completely, its very hard and although its definitely healthy to not eat to much of things its more then healthy to eat meat.

I would highly advice not to eat PORK however, no not from religious reasons, but that is a meat that adds to a unhealthy diet, eating more birds would really improve your life.




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WolfpackN64 said:
Anfebious said:
I lost around 25 kg with a diet that includes meat. Going vegan/vegetarian won't make you healthier or make you lose weight, take into account that people have to compensate a lack of vitamin with those diets. Sounds so unnatural...

Besides you make cooks around the world waste time trying to cook your recipes. Do you even know how much time it takes to make some sprouted bread?

A normal vegetarian/vegan diet is perfectly natural. Just like when you eat meat, if you don't eat varied enough, you'll get deficiencies.

 A vegetarian/vegan diet supresses meat, some of them supress milk derivates. Restricting your diet makes you more likely to get deficiencies.

I think it's completely unnatural when your diet is so restrictive that you have to take vitamins to cover deficiencies. If your vegetarian/vegan diet makes you take all your body needs then I think it's ok. But some of the vegan diets are too restrictive, some people need to take vitamins because of them.



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So I was raised a pescetarian (vegetarian who eats fish), in my second year of Uni (about 5 years ago now) I started eating meat.

I gained a lot of weight pretty quickly... but then I was going a bit mad, trying out all sorts that I had missed out on. And it's been a struggle ever since to lose it all again.

About 2 months ago, I stopped eating beef and lamb, cut way back on processed meat (if I have a processed meal, I will often opt for the veggie option if they have one) and cut all high-mercury seafood (I let myself eat seafood off this chart, maybe once per week - http://static1.consumerreportscdn.org/content/dam/cro/magazine-articles/2014/October/CRM_Safe_Mercury_Fish_10-14.png )

Once I leave HK, I also plan to stop eating pork. It's just pretty much impossible here, unless you want to lead a very miserable life. Meaning that I'll be eating primarily chicken, low-mercury seafood, and vegetarian options.

On special occasions I will eat other items on my verboten list, like birthdays, festivals, family gatherings, etc. So it's not gone forever.

For non-meat animal products. I eat eggs, when I leave HK I will switch to free-range organic only (same with actual chicken meat) (again not an option here). I eat honey. Cheese and milk, I try to keep to limited quantities.

All of these decisions have been based on environmental impact, cost, and most importantly my health* - but balanced with what I can maintain for a long period of time. There's no point going full vegan if you end up giving up after a month.

Animal rights does have some part to play, hence why I want to switch to free-range organic. I think when I move to the US, I will assess how easy it is to eat sustainable seafood to see if it's worth introducing that rule.

Other things I'm switching up is cutting back on bread, and switching rice / pasta to brown. Increasing my water intake, and switching out 50% of my soda consumption for ice tea (lemon, with half sugar). I have a fitbit, I try to hit 15k steps on weekdays, and 20k on weekends. I keep my calorie count at a deficit, and I try to do two strenuous things per week (mountain biking, hiking, or hitting the gym). My gf, friends, and parents all have fitbits so we challenge each other everyday to turn it into a game, really helps (as does the achievement system )

* Cancer, heart disease, and weight management.



If you're going to do either do Vegetarianism.

Unless you know 100% what you're doing, Veganism is very unhealthy, make sure you take the right supplements.

(If you need supplements to healthily survive your diet, you're doing a wrong diet)



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hershel_layton said:

Over the summer I've been working on my eating habits, and I've started to see more and more online articles about vegetarian and vegan diets. 

 

Just curious, but for anyone who is a vegetarian/vegan(or tried to be one), do you think it's worth the sacrifices that are made(i.e no meat and whatnot)?

 

If being a vegetarian improves my life, I'll probably do over a course of one month. Won't be young forever, so it's smart for me to plan for the future.

The paleo diet is the best plan, it's sugars and grain products that are the true evil. If it's that you don't wanna kill animals than that's another thing.



Anfebious said:
WolfpackN64 said:

A normal vegetarian/vegan diet is perfectly natural. Just like when you eat meat, if you don't eat varied enough, you'll get deficiencies.

 A vegetarian/vegan diet supresses meat, some of them supress milk derivates. Restricting your diet makes you more likely to get deficiencies.

I think it's completely unnatural when your diet is so restrictive that you have to take vitamins to cover deficiencies. If your vegetarian/vegan diet makes you take all your body needs then I think it's ok. But some of the vegan diets are too restrictive, some people need to take vitamins because of them.

Point is, I don't see it as a diet. I just don't eat meat anymore and I make sure I eat varied.