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I've been thinking about this a lot recently after i got into an argument today.

I was talking to my friends about random shit that doesn't matter and then they started talking shit on the US(me and these friend's are Americans) . I called them out on this and asked why they were talking about the US in such a way. Then the reason they gave me was about Donald Trump. I told them that if you don't like one person that shouldn't reflect on 300+ million people. So they callef him stupid either way, and i told them that had nothing to do with the US. Since we were on the topic of Trump i asked how he was stupid and they gave me the usual response that he's a racist and that he only cares for himself. So i decided to prove them wrong. I even pulled up some articles i found from google and there response was that " your white of course you would agree". This was pretty stupid because most of them were white and that race shouldn't play a role in the conversation. Also the evidence was right in front of them and they disagreed. I decided to drop it and we hanged out and went our separate ways later.

But all this day it reminded me of something one of my teachers told me a few months back that you canr really win a argument because you can show as much evidence as you want but people will still believe what they want. I pretty much agree with this but im curious to see if you guys think arguments can be won. 



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Depends on who you are arguing with, what you are arguing about, when you are arguing, the mood of the person you are aeguing with, how you are arguing, and about a bazillion other stuff. It also depends on what you at all mean by "winning".



Teeqoz said:
Depends on who you are arguing with, what you are arguing about, when you are arguing, the mood of the person you are aeguing with, how you are arguing, and about a bazillion other stuff. It also depends on what you at all mean by "winning".

Winning as in changing the opinion of the person or persons your arguing against. 



jason1637 said:
Teeqoz said:
Depends on who you are arguing with, what you are arguing about, when you are arguing, the mood of the person you are aeguing with, how you are arguing, and about a bazillion other stuff. It also depends on what you at all mean by "winning".

Winning as in changing the opinion of the person or persons your arguing against. 

Ugh... arguing against. Makes it sound like a competetion xD.

 

But yes, sometimes you can change someone's mind through a duscussion.



The most important thing this is to Let It Go. weather Donald Trump is a racist is not worth a friendship. Religion and politics can be a touchy subject for some people.



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Sometimes, arguing with some people is like hitting your head against a brick wall over and over.



Sometimes. Depends on how dense the person is



                  

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I win all the time and I lose quite often. You just have to argue with someone who has an open mind.

I actually got into a fight with someone about the spelling of the word "Judgment", yesterday.



Nothing can be won
everything is lost
existence itself is losing
time = constant decomposition
everyone and everything is dying
so no.



RolStoppable said:
Yes, if the person you are arguing with is willing to change their mind on topics.

So if the person is stubborn as a mule and won't back down on his argument, the other person won't win?