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nanarchy said:

  What growth? as desktop it has had no growth in the last 15 years. As a gaming platform it has had negative growth in the last few years.

According to you, not to Linux users mind you, but I'm sure you'd be laughing at them regardless like you laughed at your professor.



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From my POV, there's no reliable source of linux usage. It's not like you could count the amount of licenses sold, since it's mostly free to download. You can't count the amount of computers installed with a single downloaded image. The Steam surveys are not held as accurate in linux as they are in windows. etc, etc.

When I buy a computer I'm forced to buy a windows license but I don't use it. I just format the hard drive and install linux. Do I account as a Windows user? So I guess the windows usage tracking is somewhat misleaded.

I truly believe the estimates of linux desktop being just 1% are plainly wrong...but anyway, this might change in the coming decade, since now 96% of servers run on linux, 90% of the tablets and smartphones run on android (based on linux) and Microsoft adding the linux shell in Windows 10...

I'll make a bold prediction here and say in the upcoming 15-20 years Microsoft will drop windows as we know it and release their own flavour of Windows Linux.



dorron said:

I'll make a bold prediction here and say in the upcoming 15-20 years Microsoft will drop windows as we know it and release their own flavour of Windows Linux.

Microsoft Windows... dying since 1985 ;)



Hardly...the first Windows was released back in '84 and Linux didn't get released till '91...sooooo...



dorron said:

Hardly...the first Windows was released back in '84 and Linux didn't get released till '91...sooooo...

No, Windows 1.0 was released in November 1985, not in 1984. And of course there were doomsayers right from the start (f.e. fans of the new Macintosh), Microsoft didn't have to wait for these people until 1991.



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Conina said:
dorron said:

Hardly...the first Windows was released back in '84 and Linux didn't get released till '91...sooooo...

No, Windows 1.0 was released in November 1985, not in 1984. And of course there were doomsayers right from the start (f.e. fans of the new Macintosh), Microsoft didn't have to wait for these people until 1991.

You right. It was 85...anyway, i said mine was a bold prediction so, you can take it or leave it...let's see what happens 15-20 years from now



Chazore said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Doesent matter if casual outnumbers the core market on Android. The core audience on Android is viable and growing. Is Linux gaming growing? Its not significant according to Steam.

My concern isnt what people will use hundreds of years from now. At some point Windows may go free to maintain its marketshare.

Growth is still growth, to you, you have a bar set to what is viable and what is not, in this case we could say PS4 is more viable than Xbox in terms of numbers growth if you'd like to go that way of Linux versus Windows comparison.

Your concern 100 years from now won't even matter, it's not like anyone is going to specifically call your name or remember what you thought of an OS 100 years from now anyway.

You keep talking about Linux's growth but we don't really see it happening. As its been pointed out in the thread, Linux user numbers have actually gone down in Steam even though Steam is pushing Linux.

You're the one that brought up what people will be using hundreds of years from now. I didn't say people will care what I think hundreds of years from now. Its obvious you're frustrated with me and trying to insult me, I suggest you settle down.



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Chazore said:
nanarchy said:

  What growth? as desktop it has had no growth in the last 15 years. As a gaming platform it has had negative growth in the last few years.

According to you, not to Linux users mind you, but I'm sure you'd be laughing at them regardless like you laughed at your professor.

Not my professor, a work college at the time and I didn't laugh at him, just because you are incapable of having a discussion wihtout insulting or laughing at someone doesn't mean that is how adults behave. Also not according to me, According to publically available stats, e.g. Netapplications, netmarketshare, Steam, Gartner. The information is out their. I use linux every day and have for the past 21 years, it is fantastic server OS, it is also a fantastic desktop OS for those that work with IT, But it is an awful desktop OS for the general masses and gaming and nothing much has changed in this area since I started using it.

dorron if MS decided to ship a new OS it wouldn't be linux based it would be BSD based, not that I think that is likely to happen in next 15-20 years, they simply have too high a desktop and server marketshare for that to happen in such a short timeframe, it would require a technological shift at the hardware level to justify such a change.



Mr Puggsly said:

You keep talking about Linux's growth but we don't really see it happening. As its been pointed out in the thread, Linux user numbers have actually gone down in Steam even though Steam is pushing Linux.

You're the one that brought up what people will be using hundreds of years from now. I didn't say people will care what I think hundreds of years from now. Its obvious you're frustrated with me and trying to insult me, I suggest you settle down.

And yet we have no concrete proof that Linux is dying (because lets face it it;s either growing or dying, no "it's stuck in the middle of nowhere" option to use), we use Steam but we have nowhere else to use and yet I'm still seeing forums and Steam pages with Linux users voicing their opinions, but I guess we could easily without counting just label them as a vastly small minority (because it's much easier to say than to do these days).

I brought up that 100 years from now Windows won't be the same let alone be around forever. I suggest you settle down yourself, I've seen your frustration (and clear moderation) through numerous MS topics, don't tell me to pipe down until you do yourself period.



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Chazore said:

And yet we have no concrete proof that Linux is dying (because lets face it it;s either growing or dying, no "it's stuck in the middle of nowhere" option to use), we use Steam but we have nowhere else to use and yet I'm still seeing forums and Steam pages with Linux users voicing their opinions,

And yet we neither have concrete proof that Linux is growing.

"I'm still seeing forums and Steam pages with Linux users voicing their opinions" is totally subjective and anicdotal evidence. Linux users voiced their opinions also in the past in forums and on Steam pages. Perhaps you just pay more attention to these comments now than in the past. Perhaps your own interests shifted to Linux-compatible games and of course in these threads are more Linux fans writing comments than in other threads.  

Chazore said:

but I guess we could easily without counting just label them as a vastly small minority (because it's much easier to say than to do these days).

It's also easy to say/suggest that they aren't a vastly small minority... without facts this argumentation style works both ways and will lead to nothing.

Chazore said:

I brought up that 100 years from now Windows won't be the same let alone be around forever.

Neither will Linux be the same in 100 years or be around forever. The same goes for PCs, Macs, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Apple, home consoles, handhelds, smartphones, tablets, TVs...