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Ali_16x said:
jason1637 said:
Not really. From 2014-2016 they have had about 5-6 big exclusives if we don't count the ID@Xbox exclusives so its been stable.

I'm not talking about 2014-2016, I'm talking beyond that, once these known games are released, going by that 14 1st party stuff, they don't have much outside Forza 7, Halo 6, and Rare's Second game. Pretty much late 2017/2018, I don't think Microsoft will have many games.

LudicrousSpeed said:

People keep talking about that interview and 14 games and trying to list the games but they ignore that she said most of the games haven't even been announced yet. Also it's hard to take a discussion seriously when it starts off saying Horizon 3 is a yearly franchise and means nothing, and reduces an incredible game like State of Decay to "a $20-30 indie game" lol.

MS has plenty of games coming soon and apparently at least 8 that aren't even announced. I highly doubt they are making this games on Windows push and new Xbox hardware push but decided not to include games.

Oh so most of the announced games that we already know of don't count? We know of 10 first party games.

Halo Wars 2, Sea of Thieves, Gears of War 4, Crackdown 3, Scalebound, Minecraft, Forza Horizon 3, ReCore, State of Decay 2, and Killer Instinct.

That's 10, we also know about Forza 7 and Halo 6. And we just learned that Rare has a second game. That leaves 4 unannounced games with 3 we know of and one completely unknown. She said games that were in development, now most games 2-3 years and if they're including games that are just months in development, which I see no reason for them not to be, 4 games for late 2017/2018 and maybe beyond. That isn't a lot.

What did I say that was wrong about Forza Horizon 3 being announced? Tell me, how did anyone not see it coming. You think a yearly Call of Duty announcement means anything? Nope, because it's annual, just like Forza. It's announcement means nothing. 

State of Decay was an incredible game? Most would say it's a average/good game, not great or amazing. And as I said, this is about announcements, not the quality of the game. How isn't State of Decay 2 an indie game? Ori was an indie game, doesn't mean it was bad. You're acting like the announcement for State of Decay 2 was amazing, groundbreaking, or even a little bit surprising. Unless you could tell me why those 2 game announcement were anything but average, don't bother replying.

8 of them are unannounced? Lol....

ohmylanta1003 said:

Based on the responses you're getting, this was a terrible thread to begin with. This is not a "big topic" as you say. You're OP has no merit to it, as many people have shown, which leads many people and myself to believe this is a troll thread and you're trying to get a rise out of people or it's clickbait. Whichever one it is, it's not good.

The responce I'm getting is pretty normal I would say. This is not a big topic? How aren't exclusives, for consoles, not a big topic. My OP has no merit? I'm not sure how. Unless you could tell me how a yearly racing game announcement, a timed exclusive, and a indie title are huge, I'm pretty sure what I'm saying has merit. And I even backed what I said by comparing this E3 with their last 2 E3, which both had atleast 3 "huge" announcements.

Veknoid_Outcast said:

Xbox exclusives? Yes. Microsoft exclusives? No.

I know some fans want to make a federal case out of Microsoft spreading the wealth, so to speak, across PC and Xbox - but is it that big a deal? Let's be honest: most of the people saying "I was going to get an Xbox for [insert title] but now forget it" or "No need to get an Xbox now!" probably never intended to purchase one. In this culture dominated by lists and pissing contests, Xbox losing "exclusives" is more another chapter in the neverending console wars than it is a death knell for Xbox. By moving its games over to Windows, Microsoft may lose some hardware sales, but it could potentially increase its software sales by a large margin. And who knows, maybe some of those Windows gamers will like what they play, and choose to invest more thoroughly in the Xbox ecosystem.

Also, if we're continuing with the honesty angle: exclusives are important but not THAT important. The best-sellers on Xbox and PlayStation are Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Fallout, and Fifa.

Lastly, the line-up of Xbox "exclusives" that so many are mocking as insufficient is, in reality, more than sufficient for a lot of folks - myself included. To be perfectly frank, the first-party games arriving on Xbox in the next 18 months are more attractive than the first-party games landing on PS4. Sony secures a lot of great exclusive third-party content, but it's suffered lately in the first-party department.

I was never talking about Xbox exclusives, just Microsoft's exclusive. What Microsoft is doing with Xbox and PC makes sense, those are both their platforms. I actually do think exclusives are important. Just this E3, I saw a bunch of comments on YouTube videos like Spiderman, Horizon, God of War talking about how they're finally going to get a PS4. Maybe just not 1 game is a system seller but I would say all those 3 games combined, yes they're system sellers.

That makes sense. Hopefully they announce new games at gamescon. 



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ohmylanta1003 said:
Ali_16x said:

Sorry for making a thread about a big topic on the gaming industry on a gaming forum because you don't like it.

Based on the responses you're getting, this was a terrible thread to begin with. This is not a "big topic" as you say. You're OP has no merit to it, as many people have shown, which leads many people and myself to believe this is a troll thread and you're trying to get a rise out of people or it's clickbait. Whichever one it is, it's not good.

I don't think that this is a troll thread, The thread have a point and if wasn't for this "14 games in developments", where they say first party but also include Dead Rising 4, this thread would not exist.



smroadkill15 said:
Phil Spencer stated, they wanted this E3 to focus on games arriving this year and some early next year. Gamescom is for games a little bit later down the line. Don't believe me, look it up.

Phil Spencer don't stated that, he was asked what he thought about Sony's conference and using the argument that Sony's games don't have a release date and his games have a release date was just a excuse to downplay Sony because he received a agressive question.

He did not stated that Gamescom was to announce games for the next years and E3 for now.

In the biggest Game event of the year it would be silly to not announce your biggest games only because they are 1-2 years away from release, GTA V  won 2-4 times the tittle of "Most anticipated game of the year",  People bashed Rockstar because of that ?.



I feel like at this E3 they just wanted push a long list of games coming soon. MS has the most impressive list of titles coming this year and early next year.

So at E3 2017, MS has to announce new content. And perhaps sooner than that.



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KiigelHeart said:
I find it very unlikely they didn't have any exclusives planned for 2018 with new hardware releasing and all.

You don't actually mean exclusives though, right?  You mean something that is also avalible on PC.  Xbox is not to receive any more games exclusive to the box.  

There are no Xbox exclusives, only games that aren't on PlayStation.  



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Swordmasterman said:
ohmylanta1003 said:

Based on the responses you're getting, this was a terrible thread to begin with. This is not a "big topic" as you say. You're OP has no merit to it, as many people have shown, which leads many people and myself to believe this is a troll thread and you're trying to get a rise out of people or it's clickbait. Whichever one it is, it's not good.

I don't think that this is a troll thread, The thread have a point and if wasn't for this "14 games in developments", where they say first party but also include Dead Rising 4, this thread would not exist.

Did they say DR4?  I don't remember seeing that.



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Normchacho said:
Swordmasterman said:

I don't think that this is a troll thread, The thread have a point and if wasn't for this "14 games in developments", where they say first party but also include Dead Rising 4, this thread would not exist.

Did they say DR4?  I don't remember seeing that.

I thought that they said but I think that they did not.

I think that Dead Rising was on Phill's statement, and I thought that Phill was the one who stated this 14 games in  development.



zero129 said:
Ali_16x said:

I'm talking about the future, yes they have games right now but it doesn't look like they'll have much after a couple of years other than Forza 7, Halo 6, and Rare's second game.

Microsoft has never been like Sony by showing off games thats years away. They show them off closer to release its always been like this.

Scalebound 33 months, Crackdown 34-41 months, Halo Wars 2 18 months, Sea of Thieves 22 months , Halo 5 29 months, Fable Legends, 30+ months (if it wasn't cancelled, still announced early), Gears of War 4 16 months.



"There is only one race, the pathetic begging race"

First, let me start by saying that State of Decay 2 is a big game. It's going to sell millions of copies, more than some "AAA" games.

Second, this all hinges on something the head of first party publishing for Microsoft but we don't know exactly what she meant. Yeah, we can speculate but it's very possible that she wasn't talking about games in early development. In fact, that would be my guess. She runs publishing, not first party development as a whole, so she might have little to do with games that aren't nearing the marketing stage. Just speculation but, really, who knows?

Finally, people need to stop attacking the topic. Based on a statement from a Microsoft executive, speculation on this subject is valid. The intentions of the OP might be open to interpretation, of course, but there is nothing wrong with the topic.



There's a decently deep bench of great IP Microsoft is sadly ignoring:
-Mechwarrior
-Age of Empires
-Crimson Skies
-Conker
-Banjo Kazooie
-Perfect Dark
-Flight Simulator

The continued lack of a great, exclusive RPG is depressing. The fact that Scalebound looks to be shaping up so poorly isn't helping anything.



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