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Madword said:
I think it would be great to have a better battery and of course it sounds like better blue tooth would also be welcome.

I do have multiple controllers and anyone considering to play for more than 3-4 hours in a session should be default buy a second controller. Yes I know thats more cost, but seriously never had a problem with just unplugging one and plugging in another. Simple.

I actually like when one of my DS4's runs down and it's time to switch to a fully charged one. That nice cool sweat free controller feels invigorating.



   

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Could you post a link for the battery you bought?



Hopefully it's not garbage this time. But knowing these assholes who won't even make the DS3 compatible and instead release a worse controller, it's probably gonna be the worst ever.



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vivster said:
Hopefully it's not garbage this time. But knowing these assholes who won't even make the DS3 compatible and instead release a worse controller, it's probably gonna be the worst ever.

I like Sony and all.  Always been a huge fan of their TV's. On a different note, it blows my mind I can't simply use the media remote from the ps3 which is way better than that stupid one they recently released for the ps4.  They are both bluetooth and infared.



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Brun2003 said:
vivster said:
Hopefully it's not garbage this time. But knowing these assholes who won't even make the DS3 compatible and instead release a worse controller, it's probably gonna be the worst ever.

I like Sony and all.  Always been a huge fan of their TV's. On a different note, it blows my mind I can't simply use the media remote from the ps3 which is way better than that stupid one they recently released for the ps4.  They are both bluetooth and infared.

I just use the DS4 for media playback. I dont use the PS4 for muti-media stuff that much so why buy another remote to clutter up my coffee table?

You would think a multi-device generic remote would work on the PS4, but it must be proprietary.



   

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SonytendoAmiibo said:
Madword said:
I think it would be great to have a better battery and of course it sounds like better blue tooth would also be welcome.

I do have multiple controllers and anyone considering to play for more than 3-4 hours in a session should be default buy a second controller. Yes I know thats more cost, but seriously never had a problem with just unplugging one and plugging in another. Simple.

I actually like when one of my DS4's runs down and it's time to switch to a fully charged one. That nice cool sweat free controller feels invigorating.

Haha, well i never thought that would be a benefit to sell the controller :D

It all depends on how lazy I am feeling. When I get back from work someweeks I really hate to find my controller down on juice (stupid kids playing my console).... as I have to get up from the sofa... but yeah, I always have one on charge, so when I play one is always charging... no problems. I've never yet had a situation where I cannot play my console because of no controller power.



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SonytendoAmiibo said:
Conina said:

As far as I know the DS4 still uses the Bluetooth 2.1 protocol.

There have been A LOT of Bluetooth improvements over the last years. Bluetooth 4.0 - 4.2 only drain a fraction of power, which should improve battery life. For Bluetooth 5 there will be improvements in all areas (power drain, range, speed): http://www.techradar.com/news/networking/bluetooth-5-everything-you-need-to-know-1323060

I really hope that the new DS4-model (transmitter) and the PS Neo (receiver) both support Bluetooth 5 or at least 4.2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_v5

P.S.: Damn, according to the FCC document, it it still Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR? WTF? That is still tech from 2007, which was already a shame when the PS4 released in 2013! Bluetooth 4.0 (aka Bluetooth low energy) is available since 2010: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_v4.0

I hope that this is only an enhanced model for PS4 and that the Neo gets a "DS4.5" with newer bluetooth specs.

Yes, it's a shame to keep using such outdated bluetooth technology.    2.1+EDR (Enhanced Data Rate) is nasty old crusty tech.

I'm not sure Bluetooth 4.0 or higher really provides any necessary feature(s), PLUS it would make the "DS4.5" incompatible with current PS4s (I don't know how backwards compaitible Bluetooth 4.x+ is with the 2.1+EDR receiver in the OG PS4.

Back when the DS4 was announced, Mark Cerny (I think) was asked about the decision to stick with BT 2.1+EDR and he said that for what the DS4 needed to do, BT 2.1+EDR was more than adequate. So maybe there just isn't a valid reason to move to a later version of the spec? Blutooth already is a very low (battery) power tech, so a small increase in the battery capacity would far outweigh any power savings advantage of BT 2.1 vs 4.x

What I'd like to see are contact charger points built into the controller, on either side of the USB port. That way you could chge via USB port, -OR- use a contact charger without having to stick a little adapter into the USB port.



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ratchet426 said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

Yes, it's a shame to keep using such outdated bluetooth technology.    2.1+EDR (Enhanced Data Rate) is nasty old crusty tech.

I'm not sure Bluetooth 4.0 or higher really provides any necessary feature(s), PLUS it would make the "DS4.5" incompatible with current PS4s (I don't know how backwards compaitible Bluetooth 4.x+ is with the 2.1+EDR receiver in the OG PS4.

Back when the DS4 was announced, Mark Cerny (I think) was asked about the decision to stick with BT 2.1+EDR and he said that for what the DS4 needed to do, BT 2.1+EDR was more than adequate. So maybe there just isn't a valid reason to move to a later version of the spec? Blutooth already is a very low (battery) power tech, so a small increase in the battery capacity would far outweigh any power savings advantage of BT 2.1 vs 4.x

What I'd like to see are contact charger points built into the controller, on either side of the USB port. That way you could chge via USB port, -OR- use a contact charger without having to stick a little adapter into the USB port.

As I read the line I bolded in your statment I had a chill run up my spine. What if the new PS4 NEO is going to be Bluetooth 5? Not compatable with OG PS4 controllers. No, it can't be. More money for Sony if true.



   

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